06-03-2011, 17:01
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Re: VM Tv Transponders
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Originally Posted by robbo71
For a start, vm are leaving live feeds to unsubscribed properties, that constitutes being given I think.
Also we do not know what the op was after, but it appears that he was just after the unscrambled channels reading the 'other' posts.
As I understand it, morons can buy plug and play boxes, just as they could before, they just work differently of course.
As for the servers, we shall see won't we.it will be a challenge I think though.
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They are currently being disconnected around the country.
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06-03-2011, 17:06
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Re: VM Tv Transponders
Good job too!
Funnily enough, I went to one property and the vm feed was being used to watch DTT, lol.
( so close to CP transmitter, that the coax was acting as an antenna)
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06-03-2011, 17:24
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Re: VM Tv Transponders
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Originally Posted by Sirius
The OP has asked the same question on the OTHER cable forums 
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So what? That sounds sensible to me.
[QUOTE=Masque;35187987]All Virginmedia channels require Virginmedia equipment on a live account to receive them.[COLOR="Silver"]
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Nonsense. Ex sub boxes and some TV's with a cable tuner can be used.
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Originally Posted by robbo71
Interestingly,there does seem to be some unscrambled channels transmitted. I am able to watch some channels (BBC1, BBC2, ITV1,Ch4 and Ch5 plus others) with the card removed.
Also, DVB-C is a documented standard and tuners for it are readily available to purchase perfectly legally.
So, with a live feed, what the OP wants to do should be possible.
(Cannot try myself, as I only have official subscribed VM equipment)
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Exactly.
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Originally Posted by Masque
They are the only channels you can get but again you still need the box for them to work as the have been threads and posts asking if they can connect to the outlet.
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There are loads of FTA channels on the VM system.
Some examples are:
BBC1
BBC2
ITV1
C4
C5
ITV2+1
ITV3+1
ITV4+1
Pricedrop TV
BBC3
BBC4
BBC News
CBBC
CBEEBIES
All radio stations.
To check for yourself, just remove your card from the box!
The downsides are that you may lose the service at any time VM decide to disconnect you at the cabinet and there is a better choice with Freeview.
I believe VM know about this and aren't too bothered. This is because some months ago they moved a shopping channel that they part own (Bid TV OR Pricedrop I think) from M to FTA. Understandably, they want maximum exposure to their shopping channel.
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06-03-2011, 18:26
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Re: VM Tv Transponders
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Originally Posted by Masque
All Virginmedia channels require Virginmedia equipment on a live account to receive them.
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If someone was using a chipped or illegal box they are no longer working, and only card sharing rings are able to get around it but it is still rather complicated to do so.
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there is ways of doing it but the keys are getting changed very quickly which is making it hard for the pirates to keep up from what iv heard. anyways as i said above people cant be helped with things like that on this forum
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[QUOTE=RichardCoulter;35188158]So what? That sounds sensible to me.
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Originally Posted by Masque
All Virginmedia channels require Virginmedia equipment on a live account to receive them.[COLOR="Silver"]
---------- Post added at 12:39 ---------- Previous post was at 12:38 ---------- The downsides are that you may lose the service at any time VM decide to disconnect you at the cabinet and there is a better choice with Freeview.
I believe VM know about this and aren't too bothered. This is because some months ago they moved a shopping channel that they part own (Bid TV OR Pricedrop I think) from M to FTA. Understandably, they want maximum exposure to their shopping channel.
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& thats part of the problem if they did disconnect ex subscribers then the problem would be largely solved as im sure not many pirates would know how to reconnect themselves at the cabinet
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06-03-2011, 18:53
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Re: VM Tv Transponders
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Originally Posted by the-cable-guy
as im sure not many pirates would know how to reconnect themselves at the cabinet
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which is why some are called spoon fed idiots and could not even wire up a 3 pin plug without help
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06-03-2011, 20:06
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Re: VM Tv Transponders
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
There are loads of FTA channels on the VM system.
Some examples are:
BBC1
BBC2
ITV1
C4
C5
ITV2+1
ITV3+1
ITV4+1
Pricedrop TV
BBC3
BBC4
BBC News
CBBC
CBEEBIES
All radio stations.
To check for yourself, just remove your card from the box!
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But you would still be better to get a freeview box and stick an aerial in the back as you will get all those channels and more, also a new install cuts you off.
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06-03-2011, 20:52
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Re: VM Tv Transponders
If someone just has broadband can they block the TV signals coming through to the house if the don't subscribe to a TV package?
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06-03-2011, 20:54
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Re: VM Tv Transponders
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Originally Posted by mersey70
If someone just has broadband can they block the TV signals coming through to the house if the don't subscribe to a TV package?
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To get the channels you need a Vbox and a paired card on your account.
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06-03-2011, 20:58
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Re: VM Tv Transponders
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Originally Posted by Masque
To get the channels you need a Vbox and a paired card on your account.
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Yeah I get that but what I mean is those tealeaves using the sharing boxes which I am assuming are not official VM kit, if they are a legitimate broadband customer but not a TV customer do the TV signals still reach the house?
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06-03-2011, 21:01
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Re: VM Tv Transponders
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Originally Posted by mersey70
Yeah I get that but what I mean is those tealeaves using the sharing boxes which I am assuming are not official VM kit, if they are a legitimate broadband customer but not a TV customer do the TV signals still reach the house?
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As it uses the same cable as the broadband but on a different frequency the is no way to stop it but you need the correct kit to decode it, hence if the are no services at a property and a neighbour becomes a customer then the is every likelihood that that tap will be used to connect the new customer.
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06-03-2011, 21:01
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Re: VM Tv Transponders
Quote:
Originally Posted by mersey70
Yeah I get that but what I mean is those tealeaves using the sharing boxes which I am assuming are not official VM kit, if they are a legitimate broadband customer but not a TV customer do the TV signals still reach the house?
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Yes they do apparently.
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06-03-2011, 21:01
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Re: VM Tv Transponders
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Originally Posted by mersey70
Yeah I get that but what I mean is those tealeaves using the sharing boxes which I am assuming are not official VM kit, if they are a legitimate broadband customer but not a TV customer do the TV signals still reach the house?
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Yes because VM dont turn them off at the box , even if they have no services , unless the cab becomes to congested.
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06-03-2011, 21:09
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Re: VM Tv Transponders
I get it now,
Sky did the on screen number thing again today when Liverpool were playing Manchester United (ahem). I was at my brother's and a number flashed up for a second or so in different parts of the screen on 2 occasions.
It might be the card or account number, I have not noticed if VM do it.
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06-03-2011, 21:40
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Re: VM Tv Transponders
This forum narks me off sometimes.
Somebody comes on and asks a legitimate question about using a piece of equipment to receive services on a piece of equipment VM do not authorise (but just about every other DVB-C system are fine with). VM staffers then effectively lynch the guy, accusing him of trying to hack in to paid for channels.
I've said it once, I'll say it again - it's a joke how little access you're supposed to have to a telecommunications line coming in to your house! This is the sort of thing the GPO were renowned for!
Wanting to receive channels on an unauthorised piece of equipment is not a crime and certainly isn't immoral.
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06-03-2011, 21:43
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Re: VM Tv Transponders
But there are no Virgin FTA channels.....
and it's not the wire the OP wants, but the channels (content, not communication channel....).
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