Just received a Tivo Oneofthefirst flyers?

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Itshim

See no use for it. Sorry. Plus I didnt like the look of the small print. If I had it I would want to go back to what was in fact a V+ at the end of the term (18months I stand corrected if wrong) So I would pay extra £3 a month for 6 months for something I dont want & as I understand it would then become a standard box ( not a V+) How much would that cost to sort out.!

Nothing is for nothing there is aways a cost!

It is free for 12 months and yes after that you could go back to the V+ if you wanted,

[Itshim]

Originally Posted by Stephen

It is free for 12 months and yes after that you could go back to the V+ if you wanted,

I stand corrected then.
1) I was advised that it was 18 not 12 months (wrong)
2) I was told that you go back to a standard box not V+ ( wrong again)

Have said that the main use I have for The V+ is record 2 & watch third channel. Ok its promised soon - but come on we all have seen Virgins coming soon mantra.

Over all I can not see what I would use it for over and above what the v+ delivers at the moment. Having said that my mobile only send & receives call & texts. I cant take photos, send E mails etc. & I have no wish too.

Kids signed me upto Facebook - to me its so sad- At least there sites are!
Its good to get pics from them but thats it.


Guys be happy I have given someone who wants it a better chance.

[Digital Fanatic]

Originally Posted by Itshim

I stand corrected then.
1) I was advised that it was 18 not 12 months (wrong)
2) I was told that you go back to a standard box not V+ ( wrong again)

Have said that the main use I have for The V+ is record 2 & watch third channel. Ok its promised soon - but come on we all have seen Virgins coming soon mantra.

Over all I can not see what I would use it for over and above what the v+ delivers at the moment. Having said that my mobile only send & receives call & texts. I cant take photos, send E mails etc. & I have no wish too.

Kids signed me upto Facebook - to me its so sad- At least there sites are!
Its good to get pics from them but thats it.


Guys be happy I have given someone who wants it a better chance.

So long as your needs are met, then that's all that matters

[Cozzy]

Originally Posted by Stephen

It is free for 12 months and yes after that you could go back to the V+ if you wanted,

when i asked this in the past DF was adamant that if after your contract on tivo you decide to not continue then they disable the tivo functions on the box and that includes the multiple tuners and recording/playback feature meaning your tivo is downgraded to a standard VHD box

so much information that is conflicting and so very much information that is completely missing as shown in other threads ... far more questions than answers which is tough on the customer being asked to pay up for something that they dont know what features will be there / added or just maybe possible

and we are getting some not quite so happy chappy rosey picture all bells and whistles opinions of tivo now it does lead to indecision among customers which im sure VM didnt want

[clinteastman]

Originally Posted by Cozzy

when i asked this in the past DF was adamant that if after your contract on tivo you decide to not continue then they disable the tivo functions on the box and that includes the multiple tuners and recording/playback feature meaning your tivo is downgraded to a standard VHD box

so much information that is conflicting and so very much information that is completely missing as shown in other threads ... far more questions than answers which is tough on the customer being asked to pay up for something that they dont know what features will be there / added or just maybe possible

and we are getting some not quite so happy chappy rosey picture all bells and whistles opinions of tivo now it does lead to indecision among customers which im sure VM didnt want

I think if you stop paying the £3 it closes off functionality (recording, pausing and so on) but you could then get them to install a V+ in it's place. But like you I'm a little confused!

[Digital Fanatic]

Originally Posted by Cozzy

when i asked this in the past DF was adamant that if after your contract on tivo you decide to not continue then they disable the tivo functions on the box and that includes the multiple tuners and recording/playback feature meaning your tivo is downgraded to a standard VHD box

so much information that is conflicting and so very much information that is completely missing as shown in other threads ... far more questions than answers which is tough on the customer being asked to pay up for something that they dont know what features will be there / added or just maybe possible

and we are getting some not quite so happy chappy rosey picture all bells and whistles opinions of tivo now it does lead to indecision among customers which im sure VM didnt want

You can go back to V+HD is what Stephen said, he wasn't talking about the TiVo being a V+ box.

[Cozzy]

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic

You can go back to V+HD is what Stephen said, he wasn't talking about the TiVo being a V+ box.

so are we absolutely clear on this ... if you have tivo now but dont wish it in a year after your contract finished you can keep the multi tuners and recording function or are VM actually going to physically change the tivo for a V+ box ?

cant really see VM swapping shiny new tivo boxes back to older V+ boxes after 12 months or is that only applicable to lucky lotto raffle ticket winners

[Digital Fanatic]

Originally Posted by Cozzy

so are we absolutely clear on this ... if you have tivo now but dont wish it in a year after your contract finished you can keep the multi tuners and recording function or are VM actually going to physically change the tivo for a V+ box ?

cant really see VM swapping shiny new tivo boxes back to older V+ boxes after 12 months or is that only applicable to lucky lotto raffle ticket winners

If after 12 months you don't want TiVo, then yes you can go back to V+HD, if you really want to downgrade.

Unless VM decide they are no longer offering V+HD boxes and TiVo is the norm.

Not sure why you are bothered as you don't want one anyway?

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Cozzy

so are we absolutely clear on this ... if you have tivo now but dont wish it in a year after your contract finished you can keep the multi tuners and recording function or are VM actually going to physically change the tivo for a V+ box ?

If after 12 months you decided that you either did not want to pay the £3 subscription or no longer wanted TiVo then without a subscription the box would just be a Vbox without recording and playback ability similar to a V+ without its subscription and probably just one active tuner. it would be rather silly not to pay the £3 and lose all that.

[Cozzy]

two previous posts prove my point ... two conflicting answers

and just because i dont see the need for tivo and will not get one doesnt mean i cant help clarify matters especially as i had already asked this exact same question which you yourself gave a different answer too at the time

sorry if i missed the post where you corrected yourself about the downgrade/ box swap but i just wanted to be sure i understood the situation

dont wish to be rude here but even if a person does not have or is not getting a certain product they are still free to ask questions and post comments for other users so i stand by my post and its intentions and you comment regarding myself not intending to get the product was uneeded though the rest was helpful as usual

[savvychels]

I know they still haven't worked out the specifics of the VIP packages so it sounds like at the moment it's the VIP package price +£3. I'm on VIP50, but my 2nd box is a V+ for which I'm paying £10 extra a month. Would I be right in assuming that if I went for TiVo and sent a V+ box back that my monthly sub would go down by £7 (with the £10 V+ charge taken off and the £3 TiVo charge added)?

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Cozzy

two previous posts prove my point ... two conflicting answers

and just because i dont see the need for tivo and will not get one doesnt mean i cant help clarify matters especially as i had already asked this exact same question which you yourself gave a different answer too at the time

sorry if i missed the post where you corrected yourself about the downgrade/ box swap but i just wanted to be sure i understood the situation

dont wish to be rude here but even if a person does not have or is not getting a certain product they are still free to ask questions and post comments for other users so i stand by my post and its intentions and you comment regarding myself not intending to get the product was uneeded though the rest was helpful as usual

Do you honestly think that anyone with a TiVo box no longer paying a subscription is going to be able to continue using the recording/playback facility and most likely access to the 3 tuners if the is no subscription being paid.

The are customers with V+ boxes that have decided that the V+ subscription is to high and they have had their box downgraded to a standard box, as soon as the code is removed it no longer records or plays back existing recordings.

If anyone thinks they will still have a working TiVo box if they no longer subscribe will be in for a rude awakening as Virginmedia is a business not a charity.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Cozzy

two previous posts prove my point ... two conflicting answers

and just because i dont see the need for tivo and will not get one doesnt mean i cant help clarify matters especially as i had already asked this exact same question which you yourself gave a different answer too at the time

sorry if i missed the post where you corrected yourself about the downgrade/ box swap but i just wanted to be sure i understood the situation

dont wish to be rude here but even if a person does not have or is not getting a certain product they are still free to ask questions and post comments for other users so i stand by my post and its intentions and you comment regarding myself not intending to get the product was uneeded though the rest was helpful as usual

They are not conflicting at all, there are two choices.

One stop paying TiVo and have it downgraded so you would lose all the features and option 2 change back to a V+ if you want to.

[devilincarnate]

I have to say that £3 per month seems good value to me as it costs 0.69230769230769230769230769230769p per week

I need to get out more

[Cozzy]

Originally Posted by Masque

Do you honestly think that anyone with a TiVo box no longer paying a subscription is going to be able to continue using the recording/playback facility and most likely access to the 3 tuners if the is no subscription being paid.

The are customers with V+ boxes that have decided that the V+ subscription is to high and they have had their box downgraded to a standard box, as soon as the code is removed it no longer records or plays back existing recordings.

If anyone thinks they will still have a working TiVo box if they no longer subscribe will be in for a rude awakening as Virginmedia is a business not a charity.

well actually i didnt know the answer as to what exactly the £3 sub was for when i first asked ... some have said its the payment to the Tivo people and others have said its for the additional tivo services but they didnt explain what constitutes a tivo service and wether that included the PVR function

so it was a genuine question when i asked it in the tivo (i think) thread a while ago as actually i did expect the basic PVR functions to remain working without the tivo £3 sub ( i assumed the sub was for the extra functionality such as ipad app, mobile intergration, remote recording and other such things )

it was a shock to hear that the basic PVR functions would be removed and the answers i got at the time made no mention of a box swap back to a V+ box ... surprised this is possibly actually an option but i bet it will require an install fee for VM's troubles

the confusion on this matter seems to stem from no one has actually defined the £3 sub as being for all tivo functions beyond a standard VHD box and not just the payment that VM pass on to the Tivo software people

i think this should be made clearer as many signing up will not know this and although they may have no intention of dropping tivo circumstances do change