Cameron and Clegg worse than Thatcher. - Page 8

frogstamper · 23-02-2011, 17:31

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Originally Posted by martyh

thats just about the most stupid statement i have read in a long time ,how do you knoe he isn't living within his means ,how do you know he has a car on disability and what the bloody hell are you supposed to do with benefits apart from pay bills ,or do you advocate not paying gas electric ect and going on the drink instead

It must be true he read it in the Mail and/or Sun.

Derek · 23-02-2011, 17:39

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Cameron and Clegg are tearing this country to pieces with there budget cuts

Taking it back to the levels of spending of about 2006 when the dead were unburied in the street, roving gangs of cannibals kidnapped children to eat them and you couldn't walk near tall buildings for all the people jumping off them.

It is a very simple choice. You can either pay more for the services and have the state provide everything for you or you can take some personal responsibility for yourself and your actions.

Gary L · 23-02-2011, 18:14

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Had the leaflet through recently on motability and am not claiming it as we don't really need it we live close to town and our able to get help if needed from family.

You're going to turn down the opportunity of claiming Â£19 or Â£50 a week?

**Hugh** · 23-02-2011, 20:03

Here is another example of the terrible things that the Coalition are doing to the NHS - Spectator

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As it happens, the number of doctors in the NHS has actually risen by 2,484 since the coalition took over, while the number of managerial staff has fallen by a similar amount. The overall NHS headcount has risen by 3,261

Gary L · 23-02-2011, 20:20

Dave knows what he's doing. he's getting good advice.

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Osem · 23-02-2011, 20:47

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Here is another example of the terrible things that the Coalition are doing to the NHS - Spectator

What!!! So you mean, contrary to Arthur's many rants, they haven't just been slashing and burning everything we hold dear just for the hell of it??

Arthurgray50@blu · 23-02-2011, 20:53

Ah someone loves me. As l am taller Mr C is looking up to me for advice.

**Hugh** · 23-02-2011, 21:20

Impressive, Arthur - you never mentioned you were six foot two....

23-02-2011, 21:27

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Impressive, Arthur - you never mentioned you were six foot two....

he would have been 6'3" but thatcher took the milk away so it stunted his growth

**Hugh** · 23-02-2011, 21:29

Ah, that explains his bitterness......

Will21st · 23-02-2011, 22:22

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Originally Posted by martyh

he would have been 6'3" but thatcher took the milk away so it stunted his growth

budwieser · 23-02-2011, 22:57

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Originally Posted by martyh

he would have been 6'3" but thatcher took the milk away so it stunted his growth

Yet Another Stealth Tax!!!!!!!!!!

Chrysalis · 23-02-2011, 23:31

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Rather shows how effective the previous government was with these 'many' reforms doesn't it?

IB needs it, that or we've the sickest population in the developed world which we can't given apparently we've the best health service in the universe.

our health system is far from the best, dont know whos making those claims.

Factor in that uk workers also work the longest hours in the developed world.

this chart isnt up to date I think 8 years old but it shows how far behind the UK has been.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/he...ing-per-person

later data, we grown but still behind with developed countries.

http://www.visualeconomics.com/healt...ld_2010-03-01/

add to that the massively reduced spending before 1997 and you might have an answer to the general health of the population.

Osem · 24-02-2011, 08:15

We all know there's vast waste in the NHS whether it be due to the proliferation of management and red tape, the realities of PFI, over reliance on agency staff or the purchasing of IT systems, equipment etc. I see nothing wrong with making savings if the end result is that we get a leaner/fitter NHS (pardon the pun). If those in the 'know' spend more time highlighting real waste in the system than spreading doom and gloom about the possibility front line cuts then we've a much better chance of saving some money and getting the right outcome. IIRC Gerry Robinson did a pretty good job of highlighting many of the things wrong with the NHS - perhaps that'd be a good start.

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Originally Posted by martyh

he would have been 6'3" but thatcher took the milk away so it stunted his growth

Even so, that means Thatcher only 'cut' Arthur by 0.013333% so not too drastic then.

**Hugh** · 24-02-2011, 09:29

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis

our health system is far from the best, dont know whos making those claims.

Factor in that uk workers also work the longest hours in the developed world.

this chart isnt up to date I think 8 years old but it shows how far behind the UK has been.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/he...ing-per-person

later data, we grown but still behind with developed countries.

http://www.visualeconomics.com/healt...ld_2010-03-01/

add to that the massively reduced spending before 1997 and you might have an answer to the general health of the population.

OECD stats disagree with that proposition.