18-02-2011, 19:27
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#2746
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by Cozzy
but if you ask the 1 million V+ customers would they pay £149 and £3 a month (likely to rise year on year as all things do) for the ability to record and playback later i suspect a large proportion would say "why should I , I currently do that for free and am happy"
people are forgetting that any charge WILL increase year on year .. everything always does ... nothing ever decreases in price unless due to depreciation and that is a fact of life sadly

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TiVo will come down in price like all technology does. Plus the monthly fee may change too.. it may be absorbed in to XL eventually, with lower tiers paying £5 (like V+HD) who knows...
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18-02-2011, 19:34
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#2747
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic
TiVo will come down in price like all technology does. Plus the monthly fee may change too.. it may be absorbed in to XL eventually, with lower tiers paying £5 (like V+HD) who knows...
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The £3 charge should be absorbed in the xl tier now,Think vm have made a bad call here matey !!!!!!!!!
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18-02-2011, 19:37
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#2748
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by muppetman11
To be honest mate after reading the Tivocommunity forum I may join your wife and hang fire LOL 
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Just had Virgin's 'lottery' e-mail so after a discussion with the wife we agreed that in the unlikely event of getting a box she can keep the old TV drive downstairs and the TiVo can go upstairs in the bedroom. I want one as it's better than one tuner and no hard drive in a standard V box
Would just say to everyone don't give up yet they are obviously still working their way through all the accounts.
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18-02-2011, 19:43
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#2749
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by howardmicks
The £3 charge should be absorbed in the xl tier now,Think vm have made a bad call here matey !!!!!!!!!
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When did Virgin Media register as a charity?
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18-02-2011, 19:46
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#2750
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic
When did Virgin Media register as a charity?

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I think it was .................................................. some time never.
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18-02-2011, 19:47
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic
When did Virgin Media register as a charity?

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this is where the problem lies ... VM are a business with shareholders and therefore are more likely to increase charges than absorb then in the future ... like it or not VM do want to make profits and tivo is a potential cash cow for them
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18-02-2011, 19:47
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Re: TiVo
As a VIP50 customer, if I upgrade to TiVo I was going to keep my V+HD box and return the standard V HD Box. Can anyone tell what that'll do to my package price? It means I would have both Tivo and a fully functional V+HD box. Would the price go down as I'm removing the £6.50 per month V HD Box from my package and replacing it with a £3.00 per month TiVo box instead?
All this talk of potentially loosing the recording function on TiVo has me concerned. All the more reason to cling onto the V+HD box with all my might
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18-02-2011, 19:49
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by Chad
As a VIP50 customer, if I upgrade to TiVo I was going to keep my V+HD box and return the standard V HD Box. Can anyone tell what that'll do to my package price? It means I would have both Tivo and a fully functional V+HD box. Would the price go down as I'm removing the £6.50 per month V HD Box from my package and replacing it with a £3.00 per month TiVo box instead?
All this talk of potentially loosing the recording function on TiVo has me concerned. All the more reason to cling onto the V+HD box with all my might 
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As the TiVo has not been launched then no one can tell you what difference it may make to your package.
If I had 2 boxes I would keep the V+ out of the 2.
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18-02-2011, 19:49
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#2754
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by Cozzy
this is where the problem lies ... VM are a business with shareholders and therefore are more likely to increase charges than absorb then in the future ... like it or not VM do want to make profits and tivo is a potential cash cow for them
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Nice conspiracy theory and if you keep saying it, no doubt it will end up on someones blog.
VM already give you inclusive HD, TV Choice, Music On Demand and ESPN on XL.
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18-02-2011, 19:55
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by Masque
As the TiVo has not been launched then no one can tell you what difference it may make to your package.
If I had 2 boxes I would keep the V+ out of the 2.
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Thanks for the feedback Masque. I thought I had seen non-staff with TiVo or at least TiVo booked for installation in this thread. I just thought someone else may have already experienced this scenario / potential price change and would like to share their findings.
I'm a patient man so I'll just wait and see.
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18-02-2011, 19:57
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by Cozzy
this is where the problem lies ... VM are a business with shareholders and therefore are more likely to increase charges than absorb then in the future ... like it or not VM do want to make profits and tivo is a potential cash cow for them
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If you check both the stock markets that VMED is listed on you will see that the dividends are minus so i think that the shareholders are not getting a good pay-out ( at the moment )
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18-02-2011, 19:57
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by Chad
Thanks for the feedback Masque. I thought I had seen non-staff with TiVo or at least TiVo booked for installation. I just thought someone else may have already experienced this scenario / potential price change.
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Not aware of anything and only someone that has had one installed could tell you but maybe not until at least the first bill.
As I said keep your V+ when you sign up little point in keeping a standard box.
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18-02-2011, 20:02
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic
Nice conspiracy theory and if you keep saying it, no doubt it will end up on someones blog.
VM already give you inclusive HD, TV Choice, Music On Demand and ESPN on XL.
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dont get me wrong im not knocking VM ... i like VM ... but they are in the business to make money just like every other business ... they dont give things for free unless they are getting something out of it themselves some where along the line
i applaud VM for sticking to their guns and refusing to pay sky extortionate amounts for their channels but at the end of the day VM are in the business of making money and shareholders do want a payout in dividends and of course staff hope for bonuses too
an opportunity to pay off some of the debts maybe to big a temptation to someone with some power ... may not be the current CEO but who knows what the future holds
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18-02-2011, 21:36
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#2759
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by Cozzy
but if you ask the 1 million V+ customers would they pay £149 and £3 a month (likely to rise year on year as all things do) for the ability to record and playback later i suspect a large proportion would say "why should I , I currently do that for free and am happy"
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When the TV Drive first came out Telewest were asking £10 a month for it on what is now XL and £15 on the other packages on top of any install fees. People seemed quite happy to pay it then.
So personally I think £3 for TiVo is a bargain
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18-02-2011, 21:45
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by BenMcr
When the TV Drive first came out Telewest were asking £10 a month for it on what is now XL and £15 on the other packages on top of any install fees. People seemed quite happy to pay it then.
So personally I think £3 for TiVo is a bargain
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Especially once you've experienced all it's TiVo'ness
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