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muppetman11 · 18-02-2011, 14:51

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Originally Posted by Rattus

Just a thought but if VMs ultimate plan is to have everyone using Tivo boxes (either the 1TB or stripped down). Does that ultimately mean everyone will be paying Â£3 to tivo just to have the VM service?

These were my thoughts , people on XL TV with movies and sports using TIVO now basically pay 10.00 the same as the HD charge all be it 7.00 Premium HD and 3.00 TIVo charge for a lot less channels.

Big-Ted · 18-02-2011, 14:51

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Originally Posted by Rattus

Just a thought but if VMs ultimate plan is to have everyone using Tivo boxes (either the 1TB or stripped down). Does that ultimately mean everyone will be paying Â£3 to tivo just to have the VM service?

Cindy Rose stated "However, we intend to migrate our entire television customer base over to TiVo as our standard product within a matter of years, and not many years. That means, undoubtedly, we will course-correct, refine and review packaging and pricing decisions as we go to make that happen.â€
http://paidcontent.co.uk/article/419...tv-explosion/#

Clear as mud

Rattus · 18-02-2011, 14:53

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Originally Posted by Manster62

Any issues with the Parental Control/PIN issue that has been mentioned on other forums? (This could be a deal-breaker for me if you can't switch it off or at least make it less intrusive).

As you can't turn it off on the V+/TvDrive i can't see you being able to turn it off on tivo any time soon.

ie Anything recorded after 9PM if you want to watch earlier requires a pin.

Cozzy · 18-02-2011, 14:56

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Originally Posted by Big-Ted

Cindy Rose stated "However, we intend to migrate our entire television customer base over to TiVo as our standard product within a matter of years, and not many years. That means, undoubtedly, we will course-correct, refine and review packaging and pricing decisions as we go to make that happen.â€
http://paidcontent.co.uk/article/419...tv-explosion/#

Clear as mud

in normal corporate terms that usually means .... 'we are sorry we hoped to reduce prices and make packages better but in real terms the packages are being reduced and the prices are increasing due to unforeseen circumstances'

pauldavies83 · 18-02-2011, 14:59

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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic

That's how it is. I don't see any way around it... the TiVo box would still be dependent on TiVo for guide information and series links. We'll no doubt know more once the other boxes come out. There may be a "basic" model?

Disable apps, suggestions & wishlists and stop people going back in time on the EPG? Then it would be functionally similar to the V+ (although season-pass would be a bit beefed up in comparison to V+).

Or give people a V+ back without charge if they want it - but can't see this one happening. I'm sure VM want the hardware phased out, not on its way back to customers further down the line.

With regard to guide information - the actual information is pretty much the same as what the V+ gets now. Its the cleverness that TiVo achieves with that data that is the feature, not the data itself.

Perfect Choice · 18-02-2011, 15:02

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Originally Posted by Rattus

As you can't turn it off on the V+/TvDrive i can't see you being able to turn it off on tivo any time soon.

ie Anything recorded after 9PM if you want to watch earlier requires a pin.

On V+ I think you can set the age rating so that it is less relevant and so infrequent. At work right now so cannot direct directly on the bix but I think that is how it works.

But if you want to watch an 18 rated programme during the day then yes the PIN request will come up as with V+ right now,so assume exactly the same on Tivo,or doesn't it have an age related control mechanism, or is the default set to 13 say and it just hasn' been chaned yet by those lucky Tivo users (not me yet!)

muppetman11 · 18-02-2011, 15:04

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Originally Posted by pauldavies83

Disable apps, suggestions & wishlists and stop people going back in time on the EPG? Then it would be functionally similar to the V+ (although season-pass would be a bit beefed up in comparison to V+).

Or give people a V+ back without charge if they want it - but can't see this one happening. I'm sure VM want the hardware phased out, not on its way back to customers further down the line.

With regard to guide information - the actual information is pretty much the same as what the V+ gets now. Its the cleverness that TiVo achieves with that data that is the feature, not the data itself.

To the early adopters like a lot of us on here the 3.00 is not a big deal however to the bulk of VM customer base it will be when other companies can offer the same or better channel lineups with a free subscription free PVR.

Rattus · 18-02-2011, 15:13

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Originally Posted by Perfect Choice

On V+ I think you can set the age rating so that it is less relevant and so infrequent. At work right now so cannot direct directly on the bix but I think that is how it works.

But if you want to watch an 18 rated programme during the day then yes the PIN request will come up as with V+ right now,so assume exactly the same on Tivo,or doesn't it have an age related control mechanism, or is the default set to 13 say and it just hasn' been chaned yet by those lucky Tivo users (not me yet!)

Yes i think you are right it's just most of the programs i record are flagged as adult.. things like CSI, TrueBlood, etc..

But i do imagine it'll be the same with tivo, ie most stuff you record after the watershed will require a pin to watch during the day.

ie there is no way to turn it off completely.

Perfect Choice · 18-02-2011, 15:19

I think there are ofcom rules (or is that just for films?) which dictate this type of approach so something VM have no choice over I'm afraid.

passingbat · 18-02-2011, 15:24

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Originally Posted by Rattus

As you can't turn it off on the V+/TvDrive i can't see you being able to turn it off on tivo any time soon.

ie Anything recorded after 9PM if you want to watch earlier requires a pin.

Just tried an 18 rated film I recorded off film 4 a week or so ago and plays with no problem and doesn't require a pin no.

Perfect Choice · 18-02-2011, 15:26

That changes it then, can you post your parental control settings then please.

BenJSmyth · 18-02-2011, 15:29

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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic

Yes. I'm talking about what the VM TiVo customers have now and what VM have said regarding new features.

Oh right I see. I was just asking because now that more and more people are getting it I thought you might have had the NDA removed. I can't wait for Tuesday AM when mine is installed

Digital Fanatic · 18-02-2011, 15:32

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Originally Posted by BenJSmyth

Oh right I see. I was just asking because now that more and more people are getting it I thought you might have had the NDA removed. I can't wait for Tuesday AM when mine is installed

I bet you are excited!

passingbat · 18-02-2011, 15:36

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Originally Posted by Perfect Choice

That changes it then, can you post your parental control settings then please.

Rated programmes----- Standard

Everything else------- OFF

'View recorded content' is the key one and that is OFF

I pretty much never watch anything live, so maybe why I don't have issues with PC

Hambone88 · 18-02-2011, 15:46

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Originally Posted by passingbat

Just tried an 18 rated film I recorded off film 4 a week or so ago and plays with no problem and doesn't require a pin no.

Same with the V+ box i think.
If you recorded it(not live) no pin is req.
I think the pin protection is to stop kids watching on air stuff
by accident when no adult is around.
If you have recorded it,it is up to you to make sure the kids
don't see it,not the broadcasters,just like a dvd in the house.