The real reason Tivo is Â£149............. - Page 8

Big-Ted · 15-02-2011, 09:45

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Originally Posted by Marcus125

As it seems everyone agrees the fee for Tivo is an advance rental..

If someonne gets Tivo then after 3 months canceled there contract EG-Price rise. Would that customer get the "Advance rental fees" minus costs to date back?

Or is it as someone has said..VM Are making you buy the box? Because realistically how much does anyone think a VM Tivo box would retail for? I bet cost to VM is slightly less than Â£149 if they're buying 1 or 2 million (there will be a promise to purchase contract with cicso). Cisco wouldnt be making them unless the numbers are big.

The upfront rental cost is for the live of your contract, there are no time restraints, short or long.

You pay a one off fee and thats it, if you buy a TV for your kids room and they go to college before warentee etc up you don't get money back from Currys, why would you expect it from VM

As to the rest of your argument it doesn't matter what VM pay for one, if you need a new one after 2-3 years etc then they have to source it as a cost to them not you

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Originally Posted by Marcus125

Be realistic.

Has you dvd player broke? Your TV packed up? You computer failed? Your blu-ray player packed in?

If the product is of a half decent quality in the first place it will last a good few years.

Yes tv packed in, had to buy a new one as out of warrenty, it was a 4 year old LG so good quallity.......

Â£800 needed to replace it......

Digital Fanatic · 15-02-2011, 09:46

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Originally Posted by Marcus125

As it seems everyone agrees the fee for Tivo is an advance rental..

If someonne gets Tivo then after 3 months canceled there contract EG-Price rise. Would that customer get the "Advance rental fees" minus costs to date back?

Or is it as someone has said..VM Are making you buy the box? Because realistically how much does anyone think a VM Tivo box would retail for? I bet cost to VM is slightly less than Â£149 if they're buying 1 or 2 million (there will be a promise to purchase contract with cicso). Cisco wouldnt be making them unless the numbers are big.

You pay the fee to keep the monthly cost down. VM isn't a registered charity.

It was the same with TVDrive / V+. That's why your monthly fees are just your subscription on XL.

Pay for it and get the box or don't, nobody is forcing anyone to get this!

Peter_ · 15-02-2011, 09:46

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Originally Posted by Marcus125

Or is it as someone has said..VM Are making you buy the box?

No the box will neverbe your property as with the V+ boxes

Digital Fanatic · 15-02-2011, 09:48

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Originally Posted by Marcus125

Be realistic.

Has you dvd player broke? Your TV packed up? You computer failed? Your blu-ray player packed in?

If the product is of a half decent quality in the first place it will last a good few years.

Electrical equipment can fail at any time... poor example.

Marcus125 · 15-02-2011, 09:49

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Originally Posted by Big-Ted

The upfront rental cost is for the live of your contract, there are no time restraints, short or long.

You pay a one off fee and thats it, if you buy a TV for your kids room and they go to college before warentee etc up you don't get money back from Currys, why would you expect it from VM

As to the rest of your argument it doesn't matter what VM pay for one, if you need a new one after 2-3 years etc then they have to source it as a cost to them not you

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Yes tv packed in, had to buy a new one as out of warrenty, it was a 4 year old LG so good quallity.......

Â£800 needed to replace it......

Â£800?

Shop around. Currys have a great Samsung 42inch LCD for Â£399 I just bought it for my daughters bedroom.

clinteastman · 15-02-2011, 09:54

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Originally Posted by Marcus125

Be realistic.

I am.

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Originally Posted by Marcus125

Has you dvd player broke?

Yes, more than once, I had to buy a new replacement first time and then got an xbox (which also faid but was under the extended warranty at the time).

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Your TV packed up?

Yep, have owned 3 TVs 2 of which needed replacing after they failed.

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You computer failed?

Yes, I have had countless components fail on me over the last 25 years.

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Your blu-ray player packed in?

Yep PS3 kicked the bucket, luckily it was under warranty.

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Originally Posted by Marcus125

If the product is of a half decent quality in the first place it will last a good few years.

All the products above were from top manufactures and all weren't cheap. Yes they lasted a couple to 3 years but I have been with Cable for 15 years, in that time I have been through 4 boxes that have been replaced due to fault (and one as an upgrade). Like I said, to own my cable box would have been very expensive and utterly pointless!

Marcus125 · 15-02-2011, 09:59

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Originally Posted by clinteastman

I am.

Yes, more than once, I had to buy a new replacement first time and then got an xbox (which also faid but was under the extended warranty at the time).

Yep, have owned 3 TVs 2 of which needed replacing after they failed.

Yes, I have had countless components fail on me over the last 25 years.

Yep PS3 kicked the bucket, luckily it was under warranty.

All the products above were from top manufactures and all weren't cheap. Yes they lasted a couple to 3 years but I have been with Cable for 15 years, in that time I have been through 4 boxes that have been replaced due to fault (and one as an upgrade). Like I said, to own my cable box would have been very expensive and utterly pointless!

Well what can I say lol your unlucky and I would advise getting your homes wiring checked.

Big-Ted · 15-02-2011, 10:03

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Originally Posted by Marcus125

Â£800?

Shop around. Currys have a great Samsung 42inch LCD for Â£399 I just bought it for my daughters bedroom.

Â£800 was for a quality backlit LED not an LCD.

And what will you do if in 13 months that TV dies ? buy a new one........

Just accept that you want to own where others like I do don't ........

Marcus125 · 15-02-2011, 10:08

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Originally Posted by Big-Ted

Â£800 was for a quality backlit LED not an LCD.

And what will you do if in 13 months that TV dies ? buy a new one........

Just accept that you want to own where others like I do don't ........

Â£800 Does not buy a quality led lol. Our main TV is LCD backlit LED and cost Â£2900 an its no where near top of the range. An your backlit LED is actually a LCD.

A true LED tv would be about Â£10'000.

clinteastman · 15-02-2011, 10:08

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Originally Posted by Marcus125

Well what can I say lol your unlucky and I would advise getting your homes wiring checked.

I think actually that's quite normal, I have had things that have lasted 25+ years but that's not the norm. Take a cable box for example, they tend to be a large metal box that gets very hot and sits in a cabinet, a recipe for hardware failure.

I'm sure the majority of people on here would have similar stories to tell.

Peter_ · 15-02-2011, 10:10

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Originally Posted by Marcus125

Â£800 Does not buy a quality led lol. Our main TV is LED and cost Â£2900 an its no where near top of the range. An you LED is actually a LCD.

And your are quibbling over an upfront payment for a state of the art TiVo.

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Marcus125 · 15-02-2011, 10:15

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Originally Posted by clinteastman

I think actually that's quite normal, I have had things that have lasted 25+ years but that's not the norm. Take a cable box for example, they tend to be a large metal box that gets very hot and sits in a cabinet, a recipe for hardware failure.

I'm sure the majority of people on here would have similar stories to tell.

There is no need for a closed tv cabinet these days. If you're putting your AV equipment in a closed cabinet you will get high fail rates.

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And your are quibbling over an upfront payment for a state ofthe art TiVo.

:conf used:

I'm not quibbling, I'm smarting lol.

Your customer services person was as rude as hell NTHELL one is inclined to think. Bassically saying Yes I was miss sold but thats my fault for being duped and I need to take responsibillity for that. Oh and were not going to do anything to help you out.

Big-Ted · 15-02-2011, 10:16

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Originally Posted by Marcus125

Â£800 Does not buy a quality led lol. Our main TV is LCD backlit LED and cost Â£2900 an its no where near top of the range. An your backlit LED is actually a LCD.

A true LED tv would be about Â£10'000.

Shows what you know.

You are talking OLED for those prices not LED

There is a difference you know.

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/sharp-l...82305-pdt.html is what I bought, now tell me how that is not LED ?

Marcus125 · 15-02-2011, 10:18

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Originally Posted by Big-Ted

Shows what you know.

You are talking OLED for those prices not LED

There is a difference you know.

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/sharp-l...82305-pdt.html is what I bought, now tell me how that is not LED ?

Oh dear I cant see me getting through to you but here goes.

You TV has a LED matrix in the back or edge but the panel is LCD. Thats as basic as I can put it.

An I think currently the largest OLED is about 11inchs.

Instead of a standard backlight your TV has LED's as backlight. You can get LED panels (NOTE-Not led backlit) but they're crazy expensive.

clinteastman · 15-02-2011, 10:22

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Originally Posted by Marcus125

There is no need for a closed tv cabinet these days. If you're putting your AV equipment in a closed cabinet you will get high fail rates.

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I'm not quibbling, I'm smarting lol.

Your customer services person was as rude as hell NTHELL one is inclined to think. Bassically saying Yes I was miss sold but thats my fault for being duped and I need to take responsibillity for that. Oh and were not going to do anything to help you out.

My cable box is in a cabinet by it's self with an open back and vents down the side and brushless large diameter fans in the bottom. It's designed for high end AV racks and is quite capable of cooling that and more, it's not a problem.

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Originally Posted by Marcus125

Oh dear I cant see me getting through to you but here goes.

You TV has a LED matrix in the back or edge but the panel is LCD. Thats as basic as I can put it.

An I think currently the largest OLED is about 11inchs.

LG do a 15inch OLED TV for about Â£1,500.

You would have a hard time finding an LED TV for Â£10,000.

You can get a Sony KDL-60LX903 60" LED 3D TV for about Â£3,500 at the moment, very nice TV.