Gay marriage in churches - Page 2

papa smurf · 13-02-2011, 12:56

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Originally Posted by martyh

Religion is all about discrimination ,christians discriminate against jews,ect ,ect .It is all about a set belief that does discriminate against others .All the churches do at the moment is allow a ceremony for gay people but not a religious one ,no hymns ,prayers ect ,this idea is to force (via legislation) a church to have a religious service for people that in the eyes of the church are not religious

not religious ??
never heard of a gay Christian /[insert faith]

13-02-2011, 13:00

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Originally Posted by Kymmy

You have to remember though that under current laws there is no such thing as a gay marriage

so in the end this thread according to the title is a non-event

The story is actually concerning Civil Partnerships which currently happen in lots of churches anyway..

That is correct but the civil partnership is not blessed by god ,which imo is the only reason to get married in a church .

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

not religious ??
never heard of a gay Christian /[insert faith]

Yes plenty ,but in the eyes of some churches they are not because they are going against gods will ,and that is whole point ,i don't think we should impose our own beliefs morals on others .

v0id · 13-02-2011, 13:21

How about gay marriages in temples and mosques too?

13-02-2011, 13:27

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Originally Posted by v0id

How about gay marriages in temples and mosques too?

That's the stupid thing about this proposed legislation ,it will extend to temples and mosques but being gay is not allowed in Islam so can you imagine what would happen if 2 gay muslims asked to be married .It's a pointless peice of interfering from the government

Kymmy · 13-02-2011, 14:07

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Originally Posted by martyh

That is correct but the civil partnership is not blessed by god ,which imo is the only reason to get married in a church

But marriage in a church isn't valid until you sign the marriage register (which is a civil requirment) and that's what makes it a marriage and not the church ceremony

So again it's the church leaders discriminating against some people as to what they will accept. Strange as a good proportion of church members will allow their church to used for ceremonies concerning civil partnerships so I'm very surprised that the leaders don't realise this.

papa smurf · 13-02-2011, 14:09

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Originally Posted by martyh

That's the stupid thing about this proposed legislation ,it will extend to temples and mosques but being gay is not allowed in Islam so can you imagine what would happen if 2 gay muslims asked to be married .It's a pointless peice of interfering from the government

court case followed by huge payout for discriminating against their rights ?? its not pointless if it gives people the same rights the rest of society enjoy .

Stuart · 13-02-2011, 14:11

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Originally Posted by martyh

That's the stupid thing about this proposed legislation ,it will extend to temples and mosques but being gay is not allowed in Islam so can you imagine what would happen if 2 gay muslims asked to be married .It's a pointless peice of interfering from the government

Actually, the proposed legislation does not require the churches to allow Gay marriages. What it does is remove the current ban, which is not the same thing at all.

From the BBC article:

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There are no plans to compel religious organisations to hold ceremonies and the Church of England has said it would not allow its churches to be used.

13-02-2011, 14:12

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

court case followed by huge payout for discriminating against their rights ?? its not pointless if it gives people the same rights the rest of society enjoy .

It is pointless because the law will allow clergy/mosques/temples to still disallow the service on religious grounds

papa smurf · 13-02-2011, 14:28

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Originally Posted by martyh

It is pointless because the law will allow clergy/mosques/temples to still disallow the service on religious grounds

the more i hear the more i'm convinced religion is to put it politely a crock .

Ignitionnet · 13-02-2011, 19:43

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

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so a special dispensation to discriminate against certain members of society ??

Yep, religious services aren't a right.

budwieser · 13-02-2011, 20:00

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

not religious ??
never heard of a gay Christian /[insert faith]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQf5jL3a4iU

13-02-2011, 20:18

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

the more i hear the more i'm convinced religion is to put it politely a crock .

to a certain extent i agree ,but in my view religion and politics don't mix ...it'll all end in tears

Gary L · 15-02-2011, 09:43

Religion = God
Church = God

Does God like gays?
= yes or no to gay marriage in churches.

Scary · 15-02-2011, 10:04

but the problem is if they do get married even in a church you wont be able to call them gay anymore because gay means happy and how many happy married people do you all no i cant think of any

Jimmy-J · 16-02-2011, 01:58

This kind of thing must really offend followers of religions that say it's wrong. It's so against what their good book dictates, and now it seems their religion is being dictated to by the politically correct, who want to change strict religious beliefs for their own bennefit.

The church must obide by what it's book says is right, and I think to go against it would be Sacrilegious.