Row Over Crematorium Heating For Swimmers - Page 4

**Hugh** · 09-02-2011, 23:35

Talking about women and kids working down mines, mines supply coal, coal heats swimming pools and crematoriums.

(this tenuous link was brought to you courtesy of "six degrees of separation".....)

papa smurf · 10-02-2011, 08:35

if every one in the pool was to wee at the same time it would be lovely and warm -no need for fancy heating systems

**Hugh** · 10-02-2011, 09:30

The pool might overflow.....

**Maggy** · 10-02-2011, 11:41

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Originally Posted by Lord Nikon

Without wishing to be thought of as armchair moderating, what the smeg has any of this got to do with the original topic?

Well this thread is just about dead in the water anyway..

Sorry!

danielf · 10-02-2011, 11:49

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Originally Posted by Maggy J

Sorry!

You should be. Wicked & Crazy made that joke in post #32...

**Maggy** · 10-02-2011, 13:29

Well I can't see we can say much more about the topic myself..

Except it's about time we grew up about our attitude towards death and it's place in our lives..We do tend to be a bit too wary about talking about it and preparing for it.

I'm presently thinking about what service I would like myself..Problem is narrowing down the amount of music I would like..and remembering that I need to include some religious content for those of a religious nature in my family.

Anyone else put any thought to their own funeral/cremation service?

vanman · 10-02-2011, 14:14

yep cardboard box in back garden .
so the wife and kids can keep the 2 0r 3k

**Chris** · 10-02-2011, 17:06

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Originally Posted by Maggy J

I'm presently thinking about what service I would like myself..Problem is narrowing down the amount of music I would like..and remembering that I need to include some religious content for those of a religious nature in my family.

Anyone else put any thought to their own funeral/cremation service?

We went to a family funeral recently which was a strange experience as the immediate family asked the British Humanist Association to send someone to officiate.

On the face of it this was a sensible idea because the one who died wasn't religious in any way, but in practice, when you're in a room full of people looking for some sort of comfort and reassurance, having someone at the front of the room preaching that this really was the end, no more, final curtain, etc etc wasn't what many people wanted at all.

There is a big difference between positively confessing atheism (as the man from the BHA was doing) and simply having no strong personal conviction on the subject. It did trigger some interesting conversations over lunch though. Lots of folks we talked to were happy to reject the BHA man's claim that there's nothing after life, although they weren't at all sure what form it might take.

So that's an interesting thought Maggy. Do you make sure there's some religious content to your funeral even though you don't share that belief? I know for myself that my funeral is my last great evangelistic opportunity to tell people what I believe - there won't be anything but religious content at mine.

Peter_ · 10-02-2011, 17:14

I want to be cremated in as simple a coffin as possible and as I am not in the least bit religious the will be no one officiating at my funeral.

Something like this below.
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budwieser · 10-02-2011, 21:12

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Originally Posted by Masque

I want to be cremated in as simple a coffin as possible and as I am not in the least bit religious the will be no one officiating at my funeral.

Something like this below.

Is That A Jiffy Coffin?

**Maggy** · 10-02-2011, 21:32

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Originally Posted by Chris

We went to a family funeral recently which was a strange experience as the immediate family asked the British Humanist Association to send someone to officiate.

On the face of it this was a sensible idea because the one who died wasn't religious in any way, but in practice, when you're in a room full of people looking for some sort of comfort and reassurance, having someone at the front of the room preaching that this really was the end, no more, final curtain, etc etc wasn't what many people wanted at all.

There is a big difference between positively confessing atheism (as the man from the BHA was doing) and simply having no strong personal conviction on the subject. It did trigger some interesting conversations over lunch though. Lots of folks we talked to were happy to reject the BHA man's claim that there's nothing after life, although they weren't at all sure what form it might take.

So that's an interesting thought Maggy. Do you make sure there's some religious content to your funeral even though you don't share that belief? I know for myself that my funeral is my last great evangelistic opportunity to tell people what I believe - there won't be anything but religious content at mine.

Well I was thinking along the lines of a hymn at least..My favourite being All things Bright and Beautiful and at least has a jolly tune.I also like The Celtic Blessing or Laudate Dominum sung by Lesley Garret.Her version of You'll Never Walk Alone isn't bad either.
As for religious content I think I might confer with my sister whose belief is still very firm.

Sadly I think it will be down to whom survives me and if it's him indoors it'll be pretty much to the point so as to get in some drinking time....Quite right too.

TheDaddy · 11-02-2011, 05:15

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Originally Posted by vanman

yep cardboard box in back garden .
so the wife and kids can keep the 2 0r 3k

The cardboard coffin isn't the cheap option when you go to the CO OP, cost more than the wooded thing, although the children are allowed to write all over it, looks handsome on the way to the cemetery

http://www.co-operative.coop/funeral...offins-Page-2/

**Maggy** · 11-02-2011, 09:09

To be honest I think the coffin you choose only has real significance if you plan a burial.Should be the cheapest possible for a cremation.

danielf · 11-02-2011, 10:10

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Originally Posted by Chris

We went to a family funeral recently which was a strange experience as the immediate family asked the British Humanist Association to send someone to officiate.

On the face of it this was a sensible idea because the one who died wasn't religious in any way, but in practice, when you're in a room full of people looking for some sort of comfort and reassurance, having someone at the front of the room preaching that this really was the end, no more, final curtain, etc etc wasn't what many people wanted at all.

There is a big difference between positively confessing atheism (as the man from the BHA was doing) and simply having no strong personal conviction on the subject. It did trigger some interesting conversations over lunch though. Lots of folks we talked to were happy to reject the BHA man's claim that there's nothing after life, although they weren't at all sure what form it might take.

So that's an interesting thought Maggy. Do you make sure there's some religious content to your funeral even though you don't share that belief? I know for myself that my funeral is my last great evangelistic opportunity to tell people what I believe - there won't be anything but religious content at mine.

I'm not sure why an Atheist funeral would need someone preaching that this was the end. It seems a little perverse to me. Is there any need to make up for religious content with specifically Atheist content? If people want comfort and reassurance they should go to mass. Not to a funeral.

None of the funerals I've been to had any religious content. Speeches were about the deceased. Not about whether there is an afterlife or not.

**Maggy** · 11-02-2011, 10:59

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Originally Posted by danielf

I'm not sure why an Atheist funeral would need someone preaching that this was the end. It seems a little perverse to me. Is there any need to make up for religious content with specifically Atheist content? If people want comfort and reassurance they should go to mass. Not to a funeral.

None of the funerals I've been to had any religious content. Speeches were about the deceased. Not about whether there is an afterlife or not.

The thing is a funeral isn't for the deceased it's for the living and therefore I feel it should be aimed at giving comfort and help in accepting the death of a loved one to those still surviving.The best services I've been to gave a real feel of the deceased and therefore gave comfort to those attending the service.

The very worst I attended was for my Grandfather who was a staunch trade unionist for over 30 years(it was never mentioned) and no music was allowed.This for a man who was passionate about music and in particular had a deep and abiding love of opera.Not even an aria from Dame Joan Sutherland.I felt cheated on his behalf.