Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?

[Jonnymeg]

http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/ne...l/article.html

[Digital Fanatic]

Originally Posted by Jonnymeg

http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/ne...l/article.html

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by pabloo

im not talking about that..if you read back you stated that it was illegal to view foreign sats in the uk and ofcourse we have that ruling from the Advocate General of the ECJ...i only came into this thread because someone recently posted.

ohh im not worried about starviews or kryptviews..im a dreambox(s) type of guy

You can continue to dream it seems.

Originally Posted by pabloo

im not talking about that..if you read back you stated that it was illegal to view foreign sats in the uk and ofcourse we have that ruling from the Advocate General of the ECJ...i only came into this thread because someone recently posted.

ohh im not worried about starviews or kryptviews..im a dreambox(s) type of guy

As a point of fact, it wasn't a ruling, it was an opinion offered to the judges by a senior lawyer. The judges do often accept these opinions and rule the same way, but it's not over yet.

That aside, you should pay close attention to the progress of the court case Johnnymeg has linked to. It doesn't matter how you steal your cable services, all the boxes are as illegal as each other and when they catch you, you will wind up in front of the beak facing a large fine or up to 5 years in jail.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Jonnymeg

http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/ne...l/article.html

THREE men have been charged with defrauding TV giant Virgin Media of up to £40m.

Excellent news indeed

[BenMcr]

And another one http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/loc..._25m_1_2391258

[Digital Fanatic]

Originally Posted by BenMcr

And another one http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/loc..._25m_1_2391258

We're on a roll !

[pabloo]

Originally Posted by Chris

As a point of fact, it wasn't a ruling, it was an opinion offered to the judges by a senior lawyer. The judges do often accept these opinions and rule the same way, but it's not over yet.

That aside, you should pay close attention to the progress of the court case Johnnymeg has linked to. It doesn't matter how you steal your cable services, all the boxes are as illegal as each other and when they catch you, you will wind up in front of the beak facing a large fine or up to 5 years in jail.

I am sure we all want that senior lawyers opinion addopted by the judges in 3 or so months time..more competition prices drop dont we??

as for those guys behind the starview franchise they are big boys and justice will ofcourse take its course no doubt,although for anyone stealing cable or satellite by purchasing one of those boxes will hardly get nearly 5 years in jail infact show me a case were anyone individualy stealing cable or satellite has got time??infact show me a case were anyone has got done for having chipped boxes in their homes!!infact this link posted by Ben http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/loc..._25m_1_2391258

this guy got done for causeing virgin £1.25m got an 18 month sentence SUSPENDED ...maybe it all isnt really serious in the grand scheme of things ehh??

[AndyCambs]

Originally Posted by pabloo

this guy got done for causeing virgin £1.25m got an 18 month sentence SUSPENDED ...maybe it all isnt really serious in the grand scheme of things ehh??

It's not over until the fat lady sings:

There will be a court hearing in May to decide how much money he has to repay.

Originally Posted by pabloo

I am sure we all want that senior lawyers opinion addopted by the judges in 3 or so months time..more competition prices drop dont we??

Yes, I think most people would. I'd be happy to see Sky's institutionalized monopoly broken up. I'm simply pointing out the difference between legal advice and a court judgement. Here's hoping the judges in this case take that advice.

as for those guys behind the starview franchise they are big boys and justice will ofcourse take its course no doubt,although for anyone stealing cable or satellite by purchasing one of those boxes will hardly get nearly 5 years in jail infact show me a case were anyone individualy stealing cable or satellite has got time??infact show me a case were anyone has got done for having chipped boxes in their homes!!infact this link posted by Ben http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/loc..._25m_1_2391258

this guy got done for causeing virgin £1.25m got an 18 month sentence SUSPENDED ...maybe it all isnt really serious in the grand scheme of things ehh??

You know what - I can't point to a case involving an individual with a single box. Doesn't mean to say it doesn't happen though. Actually I think it's unlikely that an individual brought to court would go to jail unless they were a repeat offender. More likely they would get a fine. But they would still have a criminal record for fraud, which is unlikely to be helpful for any future job they might apply for.

The police and VM are always more likely to go after the big boys. As with drugs busts, if you take out the dealers you take out more of the problem in one go than you would by taking out the individual junkies on the street corners. But the individuals on the street corners are still law-breaking junkies. And junkies do still get done for possession when the boys in blue find them.

[pabloo]

Originally Posted by Chris

Yes, I think most people would. I'd be happy to see Sky's institutionalized monopoly broken up. I'm simply pointing out the difference between legal advice and a court judgement. Here's hoping the judges in this case take that advice.

You know what - I can't point to a case involving an individual with a single box. Doesn't mean to say it doesn't happen though. Actually I think it's unlikely that an individual brought to court would go to jail unless they were a repeat offender. More likely they would get a fine. But they would still have a criminal record for fraud, which is unlikely to be helpful for any future job they might apply for.

The police and VM are always more likely to go after the big boys. As with drugs busts, if you take out the dealers you take out more of the problem in one go than you would by taking out the individual junkies on the street corners. But the individuals on the street corners are still law-breaking junkies. And junkies do still get done for possession when the boys in blue find them.

well the boys in blue never arrested 1 single person for having a chipped box in their house(never seen 1 link over the years)...and even if you were to show me a link or 2 i would imagine the customers of virgin media that got done was miniscule..but enough about all that its in the past..as i said i only posted on this thread because someone else bumped it and i was reading back about the Karen Murphy case and a few senior members were acting flippantly and basically calling karen and people like Karen the devil incarnate.

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by pabloo

well the boys in blue never arrested 1 single person for having a chipped box in their house(never seen 1 link over the years)...and even if you were to show me a link or 2 i would imagine the customers of virgin media that got done was miniscule..but enough about all that its in the past..as i said i only posted on this thread because someone else bumped it and i was reading back about the Karen Murphy case and a few senior members were acting flippantly and basically calling karen and people like Karen the devil incarnate.

You would just be blacklisted from getting services from any ISP.

[pabloo]

Originally Posted by Masque

You would just be blacklisted from getting services from any ISP.

well lets hope access to isp's becomes a human right i love europe

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by pabloo

well lets hope access to isp's becomes a human right i love europe

Unlikely to ever happen.

[beeman]

Originally Posted by Masque

Unlikely to ever happen.

funny you say that....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8548190.stm

(old story i know but i thought it was intreasting concidering your comment)