Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
07-02-2011, 18:44
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic
Theft is theft, what ever way you look at it.
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Indeed but whilst I didn't agree with cable-TV theft, at least it didn't physically degrade a paying customer's service. Cloned modem users go down in the same category as BNP supporters for me; they were either ignorant or selfish and otherwise abhorrent.
What shocked me was how blasé ntl:, Telewest and VM were about it for ages really. Nagra2 was cracked early on in the last decade, it took until the end of that decade for VM to actually rectify the issue.
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07-02-2011, 18:45
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
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Indeed but whilst I didn't agree with cable-TV theft, at least it didn't physically degrade a paying customer's service. Cloned modem users go down in the same category as BNP supporters for me; they were either ignorant or selfish and otherwise abhorrent.
What shocked me was how blasé ntl:, Telewest and VM were about it for ages really. Nagra2 was cracked early on in the last decade, it took until the end of that decade for VM to actually rectify the issue.
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07-02-2011, 18:52
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
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Originally Posted by WillPS
What shocked me was how blasé ntl:, Telewest and VM were about it for ages really. Nagra2 was cracked early on in the last decade, it took until the end of that decade for VM to actually rectify the issue.
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To be fair I'm guessing part of the issue were the multiple billing and provisioning systems used by all the ex-companies
Trying to manage a whole subscriber swap of of cards would have been a nightmare!
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07-02-2011, 19:16
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
Well ntl and Telewest were completely separate until 2006ish, and they remained operationally separate until 2007. I'm sure independently them they could have done it before merging - Sky have changed cards a handful of times without too many problems.
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07-02-2011, 19:18
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
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Originally Posted by WillPS
Well ntl and Telewest were completely separate until 2006ish, and they remained operationally separate until 2007. I'm sure independently them they could have done it before merging - Sky have changed cards a handful of times without too many problems.
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But then ntl still had 3 different billing systems at the time of the merger (not sure how many different provisioning systems were in place) and Telewest had only just finished moving theirs across to one system
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07-02-2011, 19:21
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
Ah true, gawd forgot about that - and how ex-C&W had different STBs etc.
NTL were a funny bunch weren't they?
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08-02-2011, 09:48
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
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Virgin IMO wasnt bothered about dodgy boxes. They still got there basic subscription charges (where the money is), folk stole sky movies and sports (which virgin dont make money on anyway)
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I have to disgree. Why, oh, why did Virgin Media EVER have a TV M which is FREE and allow these thieves to prosper and also fail to physically disconnect people who had left?
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08-02-2011, 13:41
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
It was only free (I prefer the term included) when they took a phone line and broadband...
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08-02-2011, 17:05
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
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I think you will find that it is still illegal to view that in this country and any court case will be in favour of it staying illegal.
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what were you saying 
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08-02-2011, 17:17
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
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what were you saying |
About what exactly, I see some of your friends have been found and prosecuted though great news.
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08-02-2011, 17:26
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
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About what exactly, I see some of your friends have been found and prosecuted though great news. |
im not talking about that..if you read back you stated that it was illegal to view foreign sats in the uk and ofcourse we have that ruling from the Advocate General of the ECJ...i only came into this thread because someone recently posted.
ohh im not worried about starviews or kryptviews..im a dreambox(s) type of guy 
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08-02-2011, 17:26
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
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About what exactly, I see some of your friends have been found and prosecuted though great news. |
he he he
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08-02-2011, 17:30
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
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im not talking about that..if you read back you stated that it was illegal to view foreign sats in the uk and ofcourse we have that ruling from the Advocate General of the ECJ...i only came into this thread because someone recently posted.
ohh im not worried about starviews or kryptviews..im a dreambox(s) type of guy |
Where did I say that.
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08-02-2011, 17:38
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
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Where did I say that.
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08-02-2011, 19:01
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
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that case is far from over though.
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