Have you received a letter from Davenport Lyons or ACS? - Page 55

Sirius · 26-01-2011, 13:01

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Originally Posted by BenMcr

Although:

Didin't ACS:Law itself spin out of Davenport?

GCB is ACS law and they have been stopped from sending letters out

More info in this thread, Waring there is some bad language

http://www.slyck.com/forums/viewtopi...92&start=14875

Welshchris · 26-01-2011, 19:09

i know of a woman who is in her late 60s who had a letter from ACS accusing her of downloading adult films. She wouldnt have the first clue how to and she hasnt got a wireless connection.

Sirius · 26-01-2011, 19:16

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Originally Posted by Welshchris

i know of a woman who is in her late 60s who had a letter from ACS accusing her of downloading adult films. She wouldnt have the first clue how to and she hasnt got a wireless connection.

Well it looks like all those that have been blackmailed by ACS and the other shysters are about to get there revenge

lymmranger · 04-02-2011, 15:43

Well looks like its over now

"http://torrentfreak.com/acslaw-and-medi ... es-110204/"

...........well quite a mess to clean up yet but looks like crossley is trying to "do a runner"

Edit - errr hang on try - "http://torrentfreak.com/acslaw-and-mediacat-completely-shut-down-both-their-businesses-110204/"

Sirius · 04-02-2011, 18:27

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Originally Posted by lymmranger

Well looks like its over now

"http://torrentfreak.com/acslaw-and-medi ... es-110204/"

...........well quite a mess to clean up yet but looks like crossley is trying to "do a runner"

Edit - errr hang on try - "http://torrentfreak.com/acslaw-and-mediacat-completely-shut-down-both-their-businesses-110204/"

Excellent result, Hope the shysters are taken to the cleaners

Ramrod · 04-02-2011, 18:40

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Originally Posted by Sirius

Excellent result, Hope the shysters are take to the cleaners

Thats exactly what they are trying to avoid with this tactic.....

Sirius · 04-02-2011, 19:39

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Originally Posted by Ramrod

Thats exactly what they are trying to avoid with this tactic.....

Well lets hope they don't get away with it and that might make other shysters think twice before trying there blackmail trick

Ramrod · 04-02-2011, 19:41

They'll get away with it. At best the law will be changed to try to avoid this kind of thing......

Tarantella · 05-02-2011, 18:42

The ramifications of the case go beyond it as if the judge rules you cannot take a case to court based on the collection of ip addresses then isps should not be handing over customer details associated with ip addressess to 3rd parties in the first place and further more that clauses in contracts between isps and customers that say a customer is responsible for all activity on his ip address are currently unenforceable.

BenMcr · 05-02-2011, 18:47

I would point out that Virgin have never handed over customer details unless the court has ordered it to.

Stuart · 06-02-2011, 21:56

And MediaCAT, the company that carried on sending the letters after ACS Law stopped, has ceased trading. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12366747

lymmranger · 07-02-2011, 08:08

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Originally Posted by BenMcr

I would point out that Virgin have never handed over customer details unless the court has ordered it to.

Ben - dont go there...

YES THEY DID - they were the first to roll over back in Davenport Lyons days

your post does NOT tell the full story....

Very briefly the history went like this...

- VM were asked not to "object" to the NPO - they did NOT and so it went through, and the first victims of this scam were all VM customers (most of whom still have this hanging over them as the claims were never discontinued but transferred to ACS)

To be very fair to VM they subsequently stated that they would object to any further attempts at an NPO. Since then no one has even attempted to apply for an NPO against them. They were amongst the first ISP to do this and all kudos to them

BUT - like all the other ISP`s there eyes lit up with greed at the fee`s paid to them in return for there compliance.

Lets not try and rewrite history - we are not in Japan

lymmranger · 08-02-2011, 10:43

Just in case anyone is interested....

Judge Birse is expected to issue his judgement today at 2pm

....Should be interesting what he makes of Mediacat and ACS attempting to "do a runner"

.........maybe this will all end today????? (forever????)

lymmranger · 08-02-2011, 16:47

Judge Birse has issued a statement (it is on link below)

http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWPCC/2011/6.html

...having speed read it (so not definately accurate) a synopsis would be:-

It seems to be pretty much everything we could have hoped for

...it questions the NPO process was carried out correctly

....it questions the IP address collection process

....it questions how "collecting" an IP address actually proves anything

....it questions the validity of Mediacat`s right to actually claim anything

...it absolutely dam`s crossley`s conduct

...........and more to come in March

think we all deserve a drink tonight

Wayfair · 08-02-2011, 17:28

A drink and a big thumbs up for your continued updates lymmranger