Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media - Page 9

06-01-2011, 17:24

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Originally Posted by mersey70

I know you have loyalties to your employer which of course is fine but I simply don't believe Sky are that worried about a competitor launching a set top box, it dosen't work like that. Since when has a set top box been the deciding factor for a new customer, free PVR's are the norm anyway now. Sky acknowledge it has given them something to think about though but I can see their upcoming ad campaign now.

What better spoiler than Sky Atlantic to trump VM for a potential new customer? It will be content this, content that and there is nothing VM, BT or anyone can do about it.

Why should virgin want to do anything the broadband is virgins trump product offering speeds at which skys eyes glaze over,i wonder though how many customers would be tempted by a channel many customers such as my parents who take vm did not even know about sky atlantic,and i am sure many people will not be that worried , sure content is a very powerful tool Virgin have it in the broadband and sky have it in the TV.

Funny though when sky wanted to launch its broadband there was something they could do about it ie get access to BT lines,seems funny how they are not so willing to share their own content though.

Where i live though sky tv is not an option.even if i wanted to change.

Digital Fanatic · 06-01-2011, 17:27

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Originally Posted by mersey70

I know you have loyalties to your employer which of course is fine but I simply don't believe Sky are that worried about a competitor launching a set top box, it dosen't work like that. Since when has a set top box been the deciding factor for a new customer, free PVR's are the norm anyway now. Sky acknowledge it has given them something to think about though but I can see their upcoming ad campaign now.

What better spoiler than Sky Atlantic to trump VM for a potential new customer? It will be content this, content that and there is nothing VM, BT or anyone can do about it.

Sky Atlantic or TiVo? hmmmm I know what I'd go for

SA is going to be a niche market. Look how many viewers some of those programmes were getting on terrestrial.

Whilst having SA would have been a welcome addition for the odd show, there is more than enough content on VM, be it VOD or linear tv channels.

Sky will make a lot of noise about it (SA) of course, like they always do

mersey70 · 06-01-2011, 17:31

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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic

Sky Atlantic or TiVo? hmmmm I know what I'd go for

SA is going to be a niche market. Look how many viewers some of those programmes were getting on terrestrial.

Whilst having SA would have been a welcome addition for the odd show, there is more than enough content on VM, be it VOD or linear tv channels.

Sky will make a lot of noise about it (SA) of course, like they always do

But with respect DF are you a typical Joe Bloggs TV subscriber?

Most people don't have a clue what Tivo or any hardware is, or care. All they want to do is get home from work, feed the kids and get on the sofa with the missus and watch TV, most people are not techies like many of us!

If you honestly think more people would choose a STB for a couple of hundred pounds over a free PVR and a channel showing their favourite shows then good luck to you, but I think you are wrong.

If you asked the average VM subscriber (not us on here) would they rather have Tivo or Sky Atlantic and more HD channels I bet I know what would win, and hands down.

Digital Fanatic · 06-01-2011, 17:39

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Originally Posted by mersey70

But with respect DF are you a typical Joe Bloggs TV subscriber?

Most people don't have a clue what Tivo or any hardware is, or care. All they want to do is get home from work, feed the kids and get on the sofa with the missus and watch TV, not everyone is a techie.

If you honestly think more people would choose a STB for a couple of hundred pounds over a free PVR and a channel showing their favourite shows then good luck to you, but I think you are wrong.

Nothing typical about me, I'm unique

... seriously though, a lot of guys (and gals!) are techie and will want TiVo, especially if they already enjoy V+HD or similar products.

TiVo is much less a niche product than SA. IMO.

The cost thing will change at some point too.

alwaysabear · 06-01-2011, 17:47

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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic

Nothing typical about me, I'm unique

... seriously though, a lot of guys (and gals!) are techie and will want TiVo, especially if they already enjoy V+HD or similar products.

TiVo is much less a niche product than SA. IMO.

The cost thing will change at some point too.

I would consider myself a bit of a techie as you put it ,but unless you have the content to compete with Sky what use is TiVo, and you have to balance cost against content.

mersey70 · 06-01-2011, 17:49

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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic

Nothing typical about me, I'm unique

... seriously though, a lot of guys (and gals!) are techie and will want TiVo, especially if they already enjoy V+HD or similar products.

TiVo is much less a niche product than SA. IMO.

The cost thing will change at some point too.

I genuinely couldn't disagree with you more, a channel that shows, amongst other things, HBO shows is more niche than a set top box? 10 million Sky homes will have access to SA at launch, positioned right towards the top of the EPG, how many Tivo boxes are VM planning to rent out? You do know that there are less than 3 million Tivo's in circulation in the US and it is on the decline, I don't know how many homes are in the US but over 300 million people live there.

Let's agree to disagree as we are poles apart me thinks.

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Originally Posted by alwaysabear

I would consider myself a bit of a techie as you put it ,but unless you have the content to compete with Sky what use is TiVo, and you have to balance cost against content.

Exactly, and that is what most people will think I am sure.

muppetman11 · 06-01-2011, 17:54

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Originally Posted by alwaysabear

I would consider myself a bit of a techie as you put it ,but unless you have the content to compete with Sky what use is TiVo, and you have to balance cost against content.

Couldnt agree more Virgin have worked hard and TIVO looks great but at the moment HD is still lacking heres just a few problems

1. Not enough HD Documentary channels
2. No kids HD channels at all
3. New TIVO STB to high a price when your only renting the box
4. HD On demand doesnt work after 6.00pm in my area always get We are experiencing High demand but yet you can watch the SD counterpart no problem. Been like this the last two nights.

Digital Fanatic · 06-01-2011, 17:56

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Originally Posted by muppetman11

Couldnt agree more Virgin have worked hard and TIVO looks great but at the moment HD is still lacking heres just a few problems

1. Not enough HD Documentary channels
2. No kids HD channels at all
3. New TIVO STB to high a price when your only renting the box
4. HD On demand doesnt work after 6.00pm in my area always get We are experiencing High demand but yet you can watch the SD counterpart no problem. Been like this the last two nights.

What City are you in?

muppetman11 · 06-01-2011, 17:56

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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic

What City are you in?

Wigan Area Code 01 I think.

06-01-2011, 17:58

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Originally Posted by mersey70

I genuinely couldn't disagree with you more, a channel that shows, amongst other things, HBO shows is more niche than a set top box? 10 million Sky homes will have access to SA at launch, how many Tivo boxes are VM planning to rent out! You do know that there are less than 3m in circulation in the US, I don't know how many homes are in the US but over 300m people live there!

Let's agree to disagree as we are poles apart me thinks.

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Well like you I'm not bothered about getting Sky Atlantic for myself but can see advantages to having a tivo box so I guess we are both exeptions to your rule.

. Or at least will be when the tivo boxes are sold at a price that is to your liking.

muppetman11 · 06-01-2011, 17:59

Seriousley though guys im not bashing VM theyve improved loads but I just feel the time is right to now concentrate on HD and better content in general. I wish theyd chase other channels in HD rather than Sky.

Digital Fanatic · 06-01-2011, 17:59

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Originally Posted by muppetman11

Wigan Area Code 01 I think.

You are fed from the same Headend as me (Preston RHE) and very rarely see issues myself for 9132.

Preston in general is a good headend for VOD and we don't have many faults. When was the last time you had an error and was it 9132 or something else?

muppetman11 · 06-01-2011, 18:01

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Originally Posted by mersey70

I genuinely couldn't disagree with you more, a channel that shows, amongst other things, HBO shows is more niche than a set top box? 10 million Sky homes will have access to SA at launch, how many Tivo boxes are VM planning to rent out! You do know that there are less than 3m in circulation in the US, I don't know how many homes are in the US but over 300m people live there!

Let's agree to disagree as we are poles apart me thinks.

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Well like you I'm not bothered about getting Sky Atlantic for myself but can see advantages to having a tivo box so I guess we are both exeptions to your rule.

. Or at least will be when the tivo boxes are sold at a price that is to your liking.

Agreed mate I think TIVO looks awesome just wish it was a tad cheaper , I may very well pay for it from launch but thats me.

Digital Fanatic · 06-01-2011, 18:01

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Originally Posted by muppetman11

Seriousley though guys im not bashing VM theyve improved loads but I just feel the time is right to now concentrate on HD and better content in general. I wish theyd chase other channels in HD rather than Sky.

VM have a lot of balls in the air at the minute. More HD is planned

muppetman11 · 06-01-2011, 18:02

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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic

You are fed from the same Headend as me (Preston RHE) and very rarely see issues myself for 9132.

Preston in general is a good headend for VOD and we don't have many faults. When was the last time you had an error and was it 9132 or something else?

Last two nights mate on Silent Witness HD tried other HD and that was the same , the funny thing is it let me watch Silent Witness in SD no problem. It was from about 7pm - 10 pm we tried.