Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media

[muppetman11]

What amazes me with Virgin is the fact Sky are always at fault in there eyes , admittedly this is probably true most of the time but Virgin told us there was an agreement for the Sky Basic HD channels if that's the case were's Sky News HD , Sky Arts HD and SSN HD.

[dsmuk]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

What amazes me with Virgin is the fact Sky are always at fault in there eyes , admittedly this is probably true most of the time but Virgin told us there was an agreement for the Sky Basic HD channels if that's the case were's Sky News HD , Sky Arts HD and SSN HD.

VM never said Sky News and Sports News HD, they only stated Sky 1 and Sky Arts. It was assumed on here that it included the others... remember in Auguest we were being told that Sports News HD would launch on the same day, then 1st Sept and then there was a short delay.

Virgin/Sky press statement did state VoD was part of the deal and that has failed to materialised thus far along with Sky Arts HD.

[telegramsam]

Just to echo what`s already been said, sky atlantic will be exclusively for sky customers as their advert says. I would of thought virgin when do their deal to sell their channels to sky would of put a clause in the contract saying they must be offered any new channels,channel name changes or channel merges. As much as I want to see the new channel I wont be switching to sky. I hope Murdoch doesn`t get full control of sky as he has more than enough power already with all his media outlets.

Originally Posted by dsmuk

VM never said Sky News and Sports News HD, they only stated Sky 1 and Sky Arts. It was assumed on here that it included the others... remember in Auguest we were being told that Sports News HD would launch on the same day, then 1st Sept and then there was a short delay.

Virgin/Sky press statement did state VoD was part of the deal and that has failed to materialised thus far along with Sky Arts HD.

VM would be doing themselves much more of a favour if they were up front about schedules and the reasons for delays. It's possible that red button sports, Sky arts HD and Sky on demand are all scheduled to come this month as per an agreement with Sky. If that is the case wouldn't it be better to tell people and end the speculation. Of course there might be other reasons why Arts HD and Sky ondemand haven't showed yet.
At least with broadband upgrades they are up front about when people will get upgrades. I think VM tv should take a leaf out of that book.

[telegramsam]

Virgin must do more to get more hd channels on board other_wise customers will start jumping ship. They must work harder to get new launches on board the same day as sky. ITV2HD,ITV3HD and ITV4HD all have failed to materialise yet which is disapointing. I`m also wondering what virgin are going to do to replace Bravo1, Bravo2,Challenge jackpot, which went of air today, and the soon to vanish channel 1? I agree also that Tivo is too expensive and will have to come down in price drasticly

[heavyside]

A new year's thought; maybe Ofcom/The Competition Commission will allow the Murdoch/News International takeover of Sky to go ahead with the stipulation, that to avoid the charge of too much control of the pay TV market, they wholesale all their channels to their competitors. You never know. Happy new year.

[nialli]

Originally Posted by telegramsam

Just to echo what`s already been said, sky atlantic will be exclusively for sky customers as their advert says. I would of thought virgin when do their deal to sell their channels to sky would of put a clause in the contract saying they must be offered any new channels,channel name changes or channel merges. As much as I want to see the new channel I wont be switching to sky. I hope Murdoch doesn`t get full control of sky as he has more than enough power already with all his media outlets.

The ads actually only say Sky Atlantic HD is exclusive to Sky Customers. I know that they rarely mention SD versions these days, but that may well be the case - better for them to get some carriage payments from VM and appease advertisers with VM viewers. I'm probably clutching at straws, but I'm hoping that we'll get the SD version, much like we do with Sky News, Sky Sports News, the two Sky Arts channels and Sky Classics, Sports 3 and 4.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by HDFootyMan

The only import moving from Sky 1 to SkyA is nBSG.

At the moment. I think Chris was referring to any future purchases by Sky.

Well, until this, I had not heard of Sky Atlantic. So, I went online to look at what they are showing, and having seen the list on Wikipedia (assuming it is correct), all I can say is "meh".

Any shows on that list I want to see are already available on DVD...

[Digital Fanatic]

Originally Posted by dsmuk

VM never said Sky News and Sports News HD, they only stated Sky 1 and Sky Arts. It was assumed on here that it included the others... remember in Auguest we were being told that Sports News HD would launch on the same day, then 1st Sept and then there was a short delay.

Virgin/Sky press statement did state VoD was part of the deal and that has failed to materialised thus far along with Sky Arts HD.

Sky VOD should launch very soon now. The removal of the TV Choice bolt on for lower tiers was a Sky demand, if their programming was part of VM's VOD service.

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Originally Posted by telegramsam

Just to echo what`s already been said, sky atlantic will be exclusively for sky customers as their advert says. I would of thought virgin when do their deal to sell their channels to sky would of put a clause in the contract saying they must be offered any new channels,channel name changes or channel merges. As much as I want to see the new channel I wont be switching to sky. I hope Murdoch doesn`t get full control of sky as he has more than enough power already with all his media outlets.

I think that would be a very hard deal to strike with Sky. More likely access is given on wholesale terms. The price still could be too high for VM to justify to their customers.

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Originally Posted by ahardie

VM would be doing themselves much more of a favour if they were up front about schedules and the reasons for delays. It's possible that red button sports, Sky arts HD and Sky on demand are all scheduled to come this month as per an agreement with Sky. If that is the case wouldn't it be better to tell people and end the speculation. Of course there might be other reasons why Arts HD and Sky ondemand haven't showed yet.
At least with broadband upgrades they are up front about when people will get upgrades. I think VM tv should take a leaf out of that book.

a lot of agreements will be commercially sensitive. The Sky Red button is in development with VM/Sky.

VM have full control of broadband upgrades and don't have to negotiate with other providers.

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Originally Posted by telegramsam

Virgin must do more to get more hd channels on board other_wise customers will start jumping ship. They must work harder to get new launches on board the same day as sky. ITV2HD,ITV3HD and ITV4HD all have failed to materialise yet which is disapointing. I`m also wondering what virgin are going to do to replace Bravo1, Bravo2,Challenge jackpot, which went of air today, and the soon to vanish channel 1? I agree also that Tivo is too expensive and will have to come down in price drasticly

Do you want to pay extra for the ITV HD channels? Now that some channels have closed, this may well pave the way for the ITV2,3 & 4 HD channels.

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic

Sky VOD should launch very soon now. The removal of the TV Choice bolt on for lower tiers was a Sky demand, if their programming was part of VM's VOD service.



a lot of agreements will be commercially sensitive. The Sky Red button is in development with VM/Sky.

VM have full control of broadband upgrades and don't have to negotiate with other providers.

I do understand that Digital Fanatic. The trouble is as far as forums are concerned is it generates a lot of misinformation.

Personally I'm happier watching my favourite TV programmes when I choose to watch them and not necessarily when they are scheduled so VOD works for me.

Also all this shouting about HD TV..how many households actually have a HD TV? Some of us have yet to wear out our old one to the point that it's time to change..and yes I'm contemplating a foot through the screen.Had this one for 15 years now..

Originally Posted by Maggy J

Personally I'm happier watching my favourite TV programmes when I choose to watch them and not necessarily when they are scheduled so VOD works for me.

Also all this shouting about HD TV..how many households actually have a HD TV? Some of us have yet to wear out our old one to the point that it's time to change..and yes I'm contemplating a foot through the screen.Had this one for 15 years now..

Maggy, it was the best thing I ever did getting rid of my old CRT TV, the new TV's open a world of possibilities from HDTV, streaming media from our computer to being internet enabled. I would give you a word of warning though, don't put your foot through it you my do yourself a mischief

[lawe]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

Personally I'm happier watching my favourite TV programmes when I choose to watch them and not necessarily when they are scheduled so VOD works for me.

Also all this shouting about HD TV..how many households actually have a HD TV? Some of us have yet to wear out our old one to the point that it's time to change..and yes I'm contemplating a foot through the screen.Had this one for 15 years now..

Agree.
As for the foot, I would! CRT was good but a nice 42" job blows it out of the water

[spiderplant]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

Also all this shouting about HD TV..how many households actually have a HD TV?

I don't know how many households, but 24 million HDTV sets had been sold by the end of 2009. Yet only 5.1 million households had a HD source (STB or integrated TV) by mid-2010. And the actual HD viewing figures are tiny..

So most people either aren't interested in HD, or think they are watching it when they aren't.

[Flyboy]

Originally Posted by lawe

Agree.
As for the foot, I would! CRT was good but a nice 42" job blows it out of the water

I'm glad you got those words the right way round.