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Old 14-12-2010, 17:56   #181
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Re: Traffic Management Policy

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The geography of Japan also lends itself to such an enterprise.
Not really. Most of Japan is rural, and while the 1Gb services are only available in cities they do manage an average speed of 22Mb/sec for the entire country.

In cities they benefit from having an unbundled infrastructure. Poles and ducts are all available for providing services. It would be a bit like if the government here allowed anyone to run their own cable in Virgin's trunks or attach them to BT's poles. Well, even electricity ducts and the could be used.

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Here we have regulations in place which actively prevent the incumbent from replacing copper with fibre and levy taxation on investments in infrastructure along with 'NIMBY' attitudes towards infrastructure deployment and a serious lack of joined up thinking in civil engineering work.
Indeed. It should be like the national grid pylons. We need them. Can't afford to bury them. Let's just get on with it.

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One big thing Japan has that we dont - cable forests.
Those are extreme examples. I have been trying to fine a photo I took while there that shows some cables but I can't... I know there is at least one but I don't seem to have scanned it (had an analogue camera back then!)

There are certainly more cables on poles in Japan but they are usually fairly tidy and well maintained. They pride themselves on doing a good job of things and keep the place amazingly clean.

Anyway, it's no worse than satellite dishes IMHO. What about TV antennas for that matter? People must have objected to them in much the same way when the first came in, ditto telephone poles.

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Japan also has three times the suicide rate of our country. Don't suppose you wanna catch up on that too?
That is mainly because they do not suffer from Christian views on suicide. Christianity considers suicide to be a sin, and even though we are no longer a Christian country* we still have those hang ups about it. It seems odd because if an animal is in pain with no chance of recovery we put it out of it's suffering, but if a person is in a similar situation and asks for assistance we can't do the same without potentially breaking the law.

In Japan suicide is seen as an acceptable option in certain circumstances. Trying to explain them here is futile as words like "honour" and "respect" mean something very different there, but suffice it to say that the higher rate is attributable in large part to a different attitude on the subject rather than life being less bearable or worth living.


* If you need proof look at how we have diverged on issues like homosexuality, contraception, abortion, blasphemy, moral relativity etc.
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Old 14-12-2010, 18:43   #182
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I dont understand the terms 'unsightly' etc.

I couldnt give a toss having a cable forest here if it means a decent connection.
I would - ymmv.
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Old 14-12-2010, 19:16   #183
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you walk around looking up?
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Old 15-12-2010, 01:20   #184
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you walk around looking up?
With something that unsightly above, you'd probably have to learn to look down..
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Old 15-12-2010, 01:21   #185
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how about looking ahead? we have phone lines on poles anyway.
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Not really. Most of Japan is rural, and while the 1Gb services are only available in cities they do manage an average speed of 22Mb/sec for the entire country.
The population is more urbanised than here, however something that is noteworthy is that, as you rightly mentioned, population density is as an average higher in the UK, and much higher in England, than it is in Japan.

I know they take enormous pride in their work and that was an extreme example, however the way they got the utility into the guy's house is so much more efficient than the mass of duct digging that has to be done to get services to homes here. Ridiculous.
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infrastructure vs things looking pretty.
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infrastructure vs things looking pretty.
In some areas people lose out on both
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