[Update] Ofcom raps Channel 4 over Frankie Boyle's Harvey Price 'joke'

[Lew]

Originally Posted by Chris

That can't be Gary, it's quite plainly my Dad.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Stuart

They never went away. Look up Andi Osho, Shappi Khorsandi (although she tends not to talk about race as such) or Omid Djalili (who can be funny, but his depictions of iranians could be called offensive).

I was thinking more Jim Davidson. Nick Nick!

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Originally Posted by Lew

That can't be Gary, it's quite plainly my Dad.

Your dad's a racist. just thought I'd let you know

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Gary L

I was thinking more Jim Davidson. Nick Nick!

Well ,the comedians I mentions do take the mickey out of their own races rather than others. Something which Jim Davidson tended not to do.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Stuart

Well ,the comedians I mentions do take the mickey out of their own races rather than others. Something which Jim Davidson tended not to do.

I know. I just watched a bit of Andi Osho on Youtube. Jim Davidson did the black mans voice a lot. (bad)

Didn't Jim do a posh person now and again?

He used to do a white woman in a car with her boyfriend and his handbrake, which was ok. then he'd do a black man and the police. which was very bad.

[Stephen]

Personally I see nothing wrong with what Frankie said. He is a comedian and he made a joke. All the stand up on his show is present on his recent DVD as it was all the material from his most recent tour.

Yes he goes too far sometimes but it was still only a joke.

[Flyboy]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Why should they?

not much of a discussion if each sentence starts with Why?

That's not much of answer though, is it really. I really would have liked to hear what your thoughts are on why these people are not allowed to promote their religion.

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Originally Posted by Gary L

I know. I just watched a bit of Andi Osho on Youtube. Jim Davidson did the black mans voice a lot. (bad)

Didn't Jim do a posh person now and again?

He used to do a white woman in a car with her boyfriend and his handbrake, which was ok. then he'd do a black man and the police. which was very bad.

But he didn't make fun of their colour, did he.

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Originally Posted by Stephen

Personally I see nothing wrong with what Frankie said. He is a comedian and he made a joke. All the stand up on his show is present on his recent DVD as it was all the material from his most recent tour.

Yes he goes too far sometimes but it was still only a joke.

When does it stop being a joke? I mean, if he goes too far, doesn't that mean it's no longer a joke?

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Flyboy

But he didn't make fun of their colour, did he.

Colour or voice and behaviour?

When does it stop being a joke? I mean, if he goes too far, doesn't that mean it's no longer a joke?

Too far as in what's socially acceptable at the time I would say.

Originally Posted by Stephen

Personally I see nothing wrong with what Frankie said. He is a comedian and he made a joke. All the stand up on his show is present on his recent DVD as it was all the material from his most recent tour.

Yes he goes too far sometimes but it was still only a joke.

Surely you can see that when the target of your joke is an actual , named, disabled child then that is wrong?

[Lew]

Originally Posted by Gary L

Your dad's a racist. just thought I'd let you know

I already knew that.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Flyboy

That's not much of answer though, is it really. I really would have liked to hear what your thoughts are on why these people are not allowed to promote their religion.

Well you point out where I suggest

people are not allowed to promote their religion.

and I'll answer it.

[Osem]

Making fun of those who can 'defend themselves' is one thing. Picking on those who can't through no fault of their own is quite another IMO. There's quite enough paranoia directed towards autistic/mentally disabled people (and with males, sexual innuendo can be particularly hurtful/damaging) and I doubt Boyle would be quite so blase about these things if one of his children was similarly afflicted and his family had to deal with the sort of despicable comments/behaviour all too often directed at them. Life really is quite tough enough for the parents of these people without the likes of Boyle adding to the daily burden.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Personally I see nothing wrong with what Frankie said. He is a comedian and he made a joke. All the stand up on his show is present on his recent DVD as it was all the material from his most recent tour.

Yes he goes too far sometimes but it was still only a joke.

Unfortunately (and I don't mean to imply Frankie Boyle did this), but a lot of people do dress up serious abuse as "jokes", which is why we have rules on what can be broadcast.

[Flyboy]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Well you point out where I suggest



and I'll answer it.

But that doesn't mean they can push those ideals onto wider society

By which it is likely and fair to infer that you would prefer if it was prohibited. Or would prefer to argue the toss about semantics?

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Flyboy

By which it is likely and fair to infer that you would prefer if it was prohibited. Or would prefer to argue the toss about semantics?

I don't want to argue the toss about "semantics"

I do, however, want to argue the toss about where exactly I mentioned "religion"

[Flyboy]

Originally Posted by Pierre

I don't want to argue the toss about "semantics"

I do, however, want to argue the toss about where exactly I mentioned "religion"

Okay, I'll play your game for now:

That's not much of answer though, is it really. I really would have liked to hear what your thoughts are on why these people are not allowed to promote their own ideals.

Is that better?