Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Perfect Choice

Thanks, a parent may not want their children using facebook say so the Tivo box could be a way of them getting around a "parent ban" if there is no control for restricting access!!!

If the is only one TiVo box and it is in the living room then most parents will notice if their child is on Facebook, but it is likely it will or can be controlled via a PIN and if not initially it would be shortly afterwards once the complaints started to roll in.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by heavyside

According to Cable.co.uk this is a feature of TiVo that I hadn't seen before

"What sets the new virgin TiVo box apart from other digital video recorders is the ability to scroll backwards through the onscreen viewing guide and record programmes that you may have missed from the last 7 days. This really is a quantum leap in TV technology and will completely revolutionise the way in which we enjoy our favourite programmes."

and later in the same piece

"Chief amongst the new features is the ability to record programmes you have missed. Users can scroll back through the electronic programme guide up to 7 days into the past. Programmes are then retrieved and stored on the TiVo’s internal hard drive for you to watch when you are ready."

Source http://www.cable.co.uk/guides/virgin-media-tivo-guide/

If true, this is a really useful feature.

Afaik it won't let you record them but if the programme is available through on demand it will show you in the guide and be an easier way to access the on demand programmes, instead of going through the menu.

[kgollop]

Originally Posted by clinteastman

Not sure about that but if true it's the only way to do it.

I can tell you that when you do go "back in time" the programes available to watch on demand have a little "c" symbol on them. See below:

Thanks. C for catch-up presumably.

[Coax]

Seems to me that Virgin are operating the Apple business model, pay for fixing problems. To me I feel we are paying extra for Virgin to provide a reliable up to date service and fixing their existing problem with current equipment/solution. When you lease a car it normally gets upgraded after period time for free, you don’t pay anymore other than the usual increases through inflation etc. So why should it be different for renting a TV service, it should be update and enhanced as matter of course? Most of the features of the Tivo are available from Net TV’s, blue ray players, PS3, media boxes, xbox and Iphone etc for free. So what are we paying for?

[gadge]

Originally Posted by Coax

Seems to me that Virgin are operating the Apple business model, pay for fixing problems. To me I feel we are paying extra for Virgin to provide a reliable up to date service and fixing their existing problem with current equipment/solution. When you lease a car it normally gets upgraded after period time for free, you don’t pay anymore other than the usual increases through inflation etc. So why should it be different for renting a TV service, it should be update and enhanced as matter of course? Most of the features of the Tivo are available from Net TV’s, blue ray players, PS3, media boxes, xbox and Iphone etc for free. So what are we paying for?

The best pvr provider in the world (tivo) where do you think sky got there sky+ idea from.

[Coax]

Originally Posted by gadge

The best pvr provider in the world (tivo) where do you think sky got there sky+ idea from.

My point is it should be free!

[clinteastman]

Originally Posted by Coax

Most of the features of the Tivo are available from Net TV’s, blue ray players, PS3, media boxes, xbox and Iphone etc for free. So what are we paying for?

None of those are free, also how much are you paying to rent your current equipment?

[bamav]

It's a premium product, not an upgrade or simple improvement. If you want to wait for the free version, then you can do so.

The current product V+HD is equal to Sky+HD. The new product provides additional services. Not everyone has a PC / PS3 / media streamer and not everyone has them in their living room.

VM aren't trying to sell it to people who don't want it or need it - it's for customers who recognise the benefits of having such a product andf are willing to pay the price.

Like most things, in time this will become the norm for VM TV customers and will be well used and well liked. Finally something that gives VM a real edge over Sky (where available).

[Digital Fanatic]

Originally Posted by Coax

My point is it should be free!

Why should it be free? Virgin would go bankrupt in no time with that business model.

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Originally Posted by bamav

It's a premium product, not an upgrade or simple improvement. If you want to wait for the free version, then you can do so.

The current product V+HD is equal to Sky+HD. The new product provides additional services. Not everyone has a PC / PS3 / media streamer and not everyone has them in their living room.

VM aren't trying to sell it to people who don't want it or need it - it's for customers who recognise the benefits of having such a product andf are willing to pay the price.

Like most things, in time this will become the norm for VM TV customers and will be well used and well liked. Finally something that gives VM a real edge over Sky (where available).

indeed and V+HD will continue for now, so if you have it it's still supported.

[pauldavies83]

Originally Posted by bamav

The current product V+HD is equal to Sky+HD

That's the point, its not, and never has been

TiVo just closes the gap (Ok, goes past Sky) that Virgin customers have dealt with for years. The V+ EPG is rubbish in comparison and the equipment is unreliable and antiquated.

The only thing V+ has over Sky is the extra tuner and VOD, and even Sky has VOD now (all be it a crappy implementation).

[bamav]

I didn't say which was best (V+HD or Sky+HD), simply that they are equal products in the market place. There's not a big enough gap for it to be considered a problem or issue with VM. Sky isn't perfect either - I was with them for years and had problems.

This snow for one I'll bet is causing grief for many Sky customers! ;-)

[pauldavies83]

I know Sky isn't perfect (again from personal experience), but I don't think the quality of the offering of V+ can be described as equal to Sky+HD. Maybe "equivalent" would be a better word.

I never once had a snow/rain issue with Sky, but know people who did. Guess I was the lucky one

[Perfect Choice]

Everybody has their own view, personally the V+ is far superior to Sky+HD for me as the additional tuner is of high priority to me, would never have a Sky+ for that issue alone. Its all down to perception and what is really important to you, I have a SA V+ which is reliable and responsive so don't have the slow EPG issue others have had, so I suppose I am lucky as well.

Lets just say each have their strengths where the only one of significance to me on Sky+ is the better looking EPG and larger HDD, which will not be the case now from how Tivo appears to me + larger HDD as well.

[toady]

Originally Posted by Perfect Choice

Everybody has their own view, personally the V+ is far superior to Sky+HD for me as the additional tuner is of high priority to me, would never have a Sky+ for that issue alone. Its all down to perception and what is really important to you, I have a SA V+ which is reliable and responsive so don't have the slow EPG issue others have had, so I suppose I am lucky as well.

Going to miss my SA V+ when I upgrade to Tivo

Could never get on with the Sky+ EPG, always found it inferior to the VM version being able to watch a channel while looking through the EPG

[Strangerstill]

One reason I will go for this is for the brilliant Tivo UI.