Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV

[MutleyF]

Hmmm - as a user on XL, having to pay upfront £189 for a box I will never own seems rather steep to me !

It is certainly looking like keeping my old box going for the forseeable future. I cant justify that sort of expense on basically just an upgrade

(my price based on me having a discounted "loyalty" deduction.)

If however, I have misread this and will infact get it for nothing

XL TV/Triple = Free - Set-up fee £0 - Install fee £0 - Monthly fee waived for 12 months

then I will jump at the chance !

How on earth would Virgin make money out of this if they are not charging ?

[mersey70]

Originally Posted by MutleyF

Hmmm - as a user on XL, having to pay upfront £189 for a box I will never own seems rather steep to me !

It is certainly looking like keeping my old box going for the forseeable future. I cant justify that sort of expense on basically just an upgrade

(my price based on me having a discounted "loyalty" deduction.)

If however, I have misread this and will infact get it for nothing then I will jump at the chance !

How on earth would Virgin make money out of this if they are not charging ?

I was thinking much the same but there is no mention about the attached contract length yet and it is skewed towards the more valuable subscribers so maybe it's an incentive to upgrade for some lower tier customers to get free kit.

[TheDon]

Originally Posted by MutleyF

How on earth would Virgin make money out of this if they are not charging ?

Upsell.

A VIP customer is giving them over a grand a year in subs.
The cost of the box is pretty insignificant if by offering them they can significantly raise ARPU.

You have to look at it from a business point of view, when you get an STB it doesn't actually cost VM anything, they don't "lose" money on it. When they buy in the boxes the cost of them goes from free cash flow into assets. If each box costs £400 they lose £400 of cash, but gain a £400 asset. That asset is then depreciated across the life expectancy of the box (which will be at least 10 years), so as long as they make more money from you than the box loses in value they can give it you for free and it's still good for the balance sheets.

[gadge]

Originally Posted by nn012

If true, I'm extremely happy with that pricing with being on Triple XL (ie. absolutely no setup/install fee and no monthly fee for 12 months!). I'd be more than happy paying the additional £3/month after the initial 12 months.

Same for us xl tv/xl broadband and xl phone cracking news if true now when can we order hopefully soon.

[mattboothers]

How much would I save if i upgraded to XL Triple. As Im currently on XL TV L Broadband and M Phone.

Oh and I cant beleive I have to pay up to £200 for being on XL..We dont get discounts on XL AND NOW THIS - First I have to fork out to pay £29.50 for Sky Sports and HD and now this

[sherer]

does this mean you can't get this on M ? I am on that and have a V+ box but seems I can't upgrade to TIVO without taking out a dearer package

[mattboothers]

Originally Posted by mattboothers

How much would I save if i upgraded to XL Triple. As Im currently on XL TV L Broadband and M Phone.

Oh and I cant beleive I have to pay up to £200 for being on XL..We dont get discounts on XL AND NOW THIS - First I have to fork out to pay £29.50 for Sky Sports and HD and now this

And what do I get with Triple XL - Will it work to get FREE TiVo and the above too??????

[lawe]

Questions questions questions!

I'm on XLTV V+, 50mb BB but L phone. Wonder what happens then?
Might find out this coming week...

[cupcakes aka dd]

Mmmmm I'm on XL TV, XL Phone and 10meg BB. If I upgrade to 20meg BB do I qualify for free install, set up and 12 months wavered?

I certainly won't be paying all those up front fees.

[HDFootyMan]

Originally Posted by Joedm45

Pricing as expected I guess with the only exception being a world first IMO:

Existing customers being treated better than new customers!!!!

Yeah, if you're on VIP or Triple XL.

Otherwise, an existing XL customer pays the same as new customers joining from Sky or Freeview.

Speaking of which, how can VM tell if someone is joining from Sky or Freeview?

[SnoopZ]

Originally Posted by HDFootyMan

Yeah, if on VIP or Triple XL.

Otherwise, an existing XL customer pays the same as new customers joining from Sky or Freeview.

Speaking of which, how can VM tell if someone is joining from Sky or Freeview?

That would normally be someone who hasn't had Virgin before, ie not currently a Virgin customer.

[DJ-SWITCH]

XL TV/Triple = Free - Set-up fee £0 - Install fee £0 - Monthly fee waived for 12 months


I get that im on XL/Triple


but what will it be after 12months?

[HDFootyMan]

Originally Posted by SnoopZ

That would normally be someone who hasn't had Virgin before, ie not currently a Virgin customer.

But how can VM tell the difference between someone joining from say, Freeview, and an new Digital TV customer who has to pay more?

What's stopping an non-digital TV user from from 'borrowing' a Freeview box and paying VM £50 less for the set-up fee?

New Customers
(Joining from Sky/Freeview) Set-up fee £149 - Install fee £40 - Monthly fee £3/pm
(new to Digital TV) Set-up fee £199 - Install fee £40 - Monthly fee £3/pm

Or, more to the point - why are existing Digital TV customers paying less then those new to Digital TV? What difference does it make to VM if a new customer has Sky/Freeview or not?

And what about FreeSat customers?

[DJ-SWITCH]

Originally Posted by Media Boy

Media Boy EXCLUSIVE: Media Boy given TiVo Prices.

Existing Customers
VIP = Free - Set-up fee £0 - Install fee £0 - Monthly fee waived on XL
XL TV/Triple = Free - Set-up fee £0 - Install fee £0 - Monthly fee waived for 12 months
Existing XL TV = Discounted - Set-up fee £149 - Install fee £40 - Monthly fee £3/pm

New Customers
(Joining from Sky/Freeview) Set-up fee £149 - Install fee £40 - Monthly fee £3/pm
(new to Digital TV) Set-up fee £199 - Install fee £40 - Monthly fee £3/pm

These prices are all subject to change.

---------- Post added at 10:50 ---------- Previous post was at 10:38 ----------

National Geographic Channel HD becomes Simulcast

From Wednesday 1 December 'National Geographic Channel HD' will become a full simulcast of 'National Geographic Channel' on Virgin Channel 232.

Source - Sky Programme Information website/DS Forums.

When will this be on the Virgin site couse i want one as soon as its out

[borrissey]

Originally Posted by Media Boy

Media Boy EXCLUSIVE: Media Boy given TiVo Prices.

Existing Customers
VIP = Free - Set-up fee £0 - Install fee £0 - Monthly fee waived on XL
XL TV/Triple = Free - Set-up fee £0 - Install fee £0 - Monthly fee waived for 12 months
Existing XL TV = Discounted - Set-up fee £149 - Install fee £40 - Monthly fee £3/pm

New Customers
(Joining from Sky/Freeview) Set-up fee £149 - Install fee £40 - Monthly fee £3/pm
(new to Digital TV) Set-up fee £199 - Install fee £40 - Monthly fee £3/pm

These prices are all subject to change.

---------- Post added at 10:50 ---------- Previous post was at 10:38 ----------

National Geographic Channel HD becomes Simulcast

From Wednesday 1 December 'National Geographic Channel HD' will become a full simulcast of 'National Geographic Channel' on Virgin Channel 232.

Source - Sky Programme Information website/DS Forums.

Awww man that sucks.

I've got 2 separate accounts home one, then works one.

Home one is: XL TV, Sky Sports and Movies, 2 HD premium on both boxes, Multi room, 2 V+ boxes.

Work is: 50meg BB, M telephone.

Will be a shame if I have to pay for the box, set up and monthly fee. XL TV doesn't seem very discounted to me.