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pip08456 · 03-11-2010, 02:52

No doubt you will find out and report back here. Hopefully you will prove me wrong.

Chrysalis · 03-11-2010, 02:56

I am going bed, but what I have learned from reading VM's own forums.

Unclassified traffic appears to be shaped down, this obviously will void VM's claim only nntp and p2p is throttled. Ignition's own post on there showing a speedtest done on port 8095 showed this.

Few complaints of games been affected.

Few complaints of http been affected ranging from slow http downloads to missing images and pages timing out.

and of course the mtu issue reported.

its worth noting although shaping is disabled at midnight (after STM peak stops) traffic is still probably been routed through the equipment.

I am curious what the name of the equipment is VM are using. If its ellocoya's or something else.

Sirius · 03-11-2010, 06:14

Welcome to the new Virginmedia ADSL emulation mode.

This is a free upgrade for all VM's customers at no cost and will show you what ADSL users having been getting for over a year now

Welcome to

You buy one you get less free

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browney · 03-11-2010, 06:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ

I had a similar problem on Astraweb yesterday evening and changing the port fixed it.

Same here.

HSp8 · 03-11-2010, 07:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by browney

Same here.

+ 1

Ignitionnet · 03-11-2010, 09:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

I am curious what the name of the equipment is VM are using. If its ellocoya's or something else.

http://www.allot.com/Service_Gateway_Sigma.html

buba3d · 03-11-2010, 10:24

how the have the gaul to charge just under 50 quid for that, is a damn right joke.

Kymmy · 03-11-2010, 10:31

They don't.. Some of that charge is the phone line

HSp8 · 03-11-2010, 11:17

I guess VM have thought this through and are quite happy to risk losing the '1%' of their customers that use Newsgroups/p2p

I was thinking of a move to BT Infinity, but it looks they have the same sort of throttling with this kind of traffic.

buba3d · 03-11-2010, 11:41

its not just that its online gaming as well

Sigma · 03-11-2010, 12:18

If you use SSL does it get round the traffic shaping? Comments I've read seem to suggest that that's the case.

Why couldn't they just leave the system as it is? I thought that the traffic management was there to deal with the "5%" of people downloading/uploading large amounts. Now my connection is being crippled with traffic shaping as well as traffic management and I'm losing anywhere from 60% to 95% of my connection speed for up to 12 hours a day. I'm not buying the "it's not financially viable not to have it" thing at all, considering Virgin Media's profits are on the up.

psyfur · 03-11-2010, 12:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sigma

If you use SSL does it get round the traffic shaping? Comments I've read seem to suggest that that's the case.

Why couldn't they just leave the system as it is? I thought that the traffic management was there to deal with the "5%" of people downloading/uploading large amounts. Now my connection is being crippled with traffic shaping as well as traffic management and I'm losing anywhere from 60% to 95% of my connection speed for up to 12 hours a day. I'm not buying the "it's not financially viable not to have it" thing at all, considering Virgin Media's profits are on the up.

Moving to SSL fixed the issue for me but not sure I have gone over fair usage as I have been in Bali for 3 weeks and the modem was powered off. Oh and I wasnt traffic managed

Chrysalis · 03-11-2010, 15:24

ok I have tested. and will pass this on oto VM.

mtu 900 5 speedtest.net london tests in a row.
18.34
18.66
18.29
19.01
18.10
mtu 1500 repeated
6.26
1.27
12.09
6.06
10.69

tbb speedtest, port 8095 was ok port 80 slow. (mtu 900)

port 8095 15.66 meg
port 80 6.66meg.

repeated with similiar results.

I have not tested yet if normal browsing and youtube etc. improve with lower mtu as still not using VM for that.

single stream ftp downloads remain flaky even with mtu 900.

*sloman* · 03-11-2010, 15:55

i'm on 50mb just downloaded 5.6gb file at16:45 @5.92mbps, no capping/throttling here.

Location: Derby
Provider: NewsDemon
Port: 80
SSL: YES
Client: SABnzbd+ 0.5.4

HSp8 · 03-11-2010, 15:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by *sloman*

i'm on 50mb just downloaded 5.6gb file at16:45 @5.92mbps, no capping/throttling here.

Location: Derby
Provider: NewsDemon
Port: 80
SSL: YES
Client: SABnzbd+ 0.5.4

try it again past 5pm - I think that's when the throttling kicks in