Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV

[alwaysabear]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

It's coming mate trust me

With those figures I do not doubt you

[nialli]

Originally Posted by ahardie

A poster on DS said he had emailed VM and they said they were in negotiations with Sky but that Sky weren't willing to give them the channel.

Has anybody on here emailed VM and got this response?

I got an email this morning from Cindy Rose, Virgin's Executive Director of Digital Enterntainment:

Regarding Sky Atlantic, we are in discussions with Sky regarding this channel now. We know little more about the channel and its programming than we have read in the press. It is entirely up to Sky as to whether they make the channel available to us and at what price. As always, we will do our very best to continue to offer our customers the best entertainment content available, but as I'm sure you'll appreciate, there are no guarantees. As soon as we have something to announce, rest assured we will.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by nialli

I got an email this morning from Cindy Rose, Virgin's Executive Director of Digital Enterntainment:

Doesn't sound to promising.

We'll get it. Not in HD but we'll get it. SKY have poured a lot of money into this deal. They would be MAD not to try and claw it back through sale to Virgin. They know they can sell the SD version and get money.

Oh and i can't see it possible VM can do an OD deal with Universal and not get the HD channle versin somwhere down the line...

[nialli]

Originally Posted by Mobes

We'll get it. Not in HD but we'll get it. SKY have poured a lot of money into this deal. They would be MAD not to try and claw it back through sale to Virgin. They know they can sell the SD version and get money.

Oh and i can't see it possible VM can do an OD deal with Universal and not get the HD channle versin somwhere down the line...

I agree: they may (or may not) hold back the HD version for a few months but will need the 3.75m Virgin viewers to sell this to advertisers, especially as they're not charging Sky customers any extra for the channel.
It's telling that the Sky announcement mentioned that the new channels "will be channels worth paying for and will give even more customers reasons to choose pay TV". Not "Sky TV" - "pay TV". Daroch believes the enemy to be Freeview/Freesat, not Virgin Media.
A shame that Digital Spy can't report on a press release accurately.

[jobbie8]

Demand Five here in Teesside as of this morning!

[dsmuk]

Virgin Media's TV base increased by 14,800 in the third quarter to 3.77m customers.
More than half use Virgin's video-on-demand service.

The company has increased its portfolio of high-definition channels from one to 28 in a year, including the addition of Sky Sports and Sky Movies, with 222,100 new customers taking the HD offering in the quarter.
Overall Virgin Media has 1.4m subscribers to HD, a 38% year-on-year increase.

The company also added more than 100,000 customers taking its Sky premium suite of channels, taking the total to 725,000, including 52,000 who have signed up to Sky Sports HD and, or, Sky Movies HD since launching the channels in August.

Can't work out if

• 725,000 out of a possible out of 3.77 million sub subscribe to Sports/Movies (about 20%ish of all subscribers)
• 52,000 out of a possible 1.4 million for Sky Sports/Movies HD (about 4% of HD subscribers)

are good figures.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010...00mb-broadband

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by nialli

I got an email this morning from Cindy Rose, Virgin's Executive Director of Digital Enterntainment:

Quote:
Regarding Sky Atlantic, we are in discussions with Sky regarding this channel now. We know little more about the channel and its programming than we have read in the press. It is entirely up to Sky as to whether they make the channel available to us and at what price. As always, we will do our very best to continue to offer our customers the best entertainment content available, but as I'm sure you'll appreciate, there are no guarantees. As soon as we have something to announce, rest assured we will

Maybe it would be possible to email her back and ask why a provision for Sky launching new non Premium channels wasn't included in the negotiations when selling the Virgin channels and getting Sky HD?

Most people on this forum would have covered that in the nefgotiations and the Virgin media people are meant to be proffesional negotiators.

Originally Posted by passingbat

Maybe it would be possible to email her back and ask why a provision for Sky launching new non Premium channels wasn't included in the negotiations when selling the Virgin channels and getting Sky HD?

Most people on this forum would have covered that in the negotiations and the Virgin media people are meant to be proffesional negotiators.

VERY good question!

[devilincarnate]

DEMAND FIVE now gone from catch up in Barnsley.

[nialli]

Originally Posted by Mobes

VERY good question!

You don't really think a senior Director at Virgin will answer that, do you? It would mean referring to the commercial agreements they have with Sky regarding the sale of VMTV and carriage arrangements, neither of which are going to be made public.

It's very easy for us to sit here and question the deals that may have been done, but we don't know the details nor will we. Does Sky Atlantic simply replace Bravo/Channel One/Trouble? Don't know. Is it a "Sky Basic" and therefore get covered by the Sky Basics HD agreement? No idea.

All we know is that when Sky withheld Sky One it hit them hard commercially and they ended up returning to the table to appease advertisers. Sky has just shy of 10m TV customers and the only other significant pay platform adds over a third more (3.77m to be exact) - it's in both sides interest to expose Atlantic to as many paying viewers as possible.

And let's not forget the limited appeal of Atlantic - Mad Men on BBC4, a much larger viewing pool, has tiny audiences.

[muppetman11]

When Channel One and Bravo shut how many channels will be lost including +1, surely this will hurt VM more than Sky , as Sky already has more channels.

5 channels will close.

[VirginMediaPhil]

Originally Posted by Jameseh

5 channels will close.

Channel One
Channel One +1
Bravo
Bravo +1
Bravo2

[nialli]

Originally Posted by Jameseh

5 channels will close.

And we also lost Sky Real Lives, Real Lives 2 and the promised HD versions under the Basics deal.

Do we get Sky Living? Or does the rebrand mean that it and it's +1 and 2 versions go as well?