Football Season 2010/2011 - Page 40

colin25 · 21-10-2010, 19:49

Don't agree with him...but solution is for clubs not to pay silly money...no market..no cost

But self evident that system is wrong...i would prefer no transfer deadline..allow transfers whenever.

granted, richer clubs will buy players...but that is how it has always been

sherer · 21-10-2010, 20:45

the main thing they need to deal with is agents. If a player wants one he can pay for one out of his own pocket. All the money that goes to agents is just leaked out of the game, meaning clubs have to put up prices to get the money back

**Damien** · 21-10-2010, 23:21

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...er-united-city

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Manchester United have re-entered negotiations with Wayne Rooney's adviser, Paul Stretford, to determine whether there is any way back for the player at Old Trafford after stating his desire to leave.

After this week this would simply be crazy.

Uncle Peter · 21-10-2010, 23:28

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Originally Posted by Damien

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...er-united-city

After this week this would simply be crazy.

Perhaps Ferguson sees through Stretford as manipulating his client to engineer a move to earn his next big agent's wedge. Does Rooney really want to leave or has he had his arm twisted by nasty agent?

**Damien** · 21-10-2010, 23:46

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Originally Posted by Uncle Peter

Perhaps Ferguson sees through Stretford as manipulating his client to engineer a move to earn his next big agent's wedge. Does Rooney really want to leave or has he had his arm twisted by nasty agent?

From the sounds of it the club want to keep him rather than Ferguson. How can he realistically stay after this week and his statement yesterday?

punky · 21-10-2010, 23:51

Agents only have so much sway over a player. Yes they can encourage players to leave but they can't make a player go from loving a club to wanting to leave and screw them over in the first place.

And besides, even Wayne Rooney can work out for himself that if he left he could get more money elsewhere. You don't need to be a commercial genius to work that out.

At first I thought it was that Ferguson and Rooney had a falling out. Which wouldn't be the first time for Ferguson. His management style makes Pol Pot look positively friendly. However, I think there is a lot of merit in what Rooney was saying. Ronaldo has been sold and not really replaced. Players long since linked with like Benzema and Ribery haven't materialised into transfers. The golden generation (Giggs, Scholes, etc) are on their way out and really it doesn't look like the owners will dig deep to replace them. Suarez has been mentioned but only if Rooney leaves. Utd have always manage to keep the quality in the team with ~Â£30m transfers but they are few and far between for them these days.

Sherer knows his club better than I do. I can easily see his point.

Uncle Peter · 21-10-2010, 23:58

So Gill or the Glazers perhaps want him to stay for prestige/commercial reasons or maybe that they don't want a star player joining a rival team and Ferguson wouldn't be bothered if he saw the back of him. I guess it's not going to come out in the wash for some time.

Would imagine there will be a pretty intense bidding war for Suarez but more likely in the summer rather than January window.

**Damien** · 22-10-2010, 00:03

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Originally Posted by Uncle Peter

So Gill or the Glazers perhaps want him to stay for prestige/commercial reasons or maybe that they don't want a star player joining a rival team and Ferguson wouldn't be bothered if he saw the back of him. I guess it's not going to come out in the wash for some time.

Would imagine there will be a pretty intense bidding war for Suarez but more likely in the summer rather than January window.

I think that is the likely situation. Reporters are saying Ferguson was frustrated the matter could not be settled today and I would imagine that is because he had the full intention of selling him in may.

After his statement attacking the clubs ambition and effectively bemoaning the quality of his team mates I can't see SAF wanting to keep him.

Furthermore just how much of a tool is Rooney? I have said before I feel he gets too much credit at the expensive of other members of the United team and he seems to think he deserves it.

sherer · 22-10-2010, 12:22

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Originally Posted by punky

Agents only have so much sway over a player. Yes they can encourage players to leave but they can't make a player go from loving a club to wanting to leave and screw them over in the first place.

And besides, even Wayne Rooney can work out for himself that if he left he could get more money elsewhere. You don't need to be a commercial genius to work that out.

In an ideal world I would say the player should be able to work all this out themselves and where is best for them to go.

I have to say based on some comments i've seen that agents do seem to have this much power over a player and do tell them what to think and where to go. We had it with Wes Brown where he almost left and went to Newcastle due to his agent, Fergie said if he could talk to the player direct it would be sorted but it all had to go through an agent.

Even these new talks with Rooney aren't, it is all going through the agent. The agents only care about money not the player

Shadow Demon UK · 22-10-2010, 12:34

Apparently some bookies have suspended bets on Rooney staying at United...

gazzae · 22-10-2010, 12:47

Thats that sorted then 5 year contract with Utd.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-...chester_United

**Damien** · 22-10-2010, 12:49

Rooney is staying after all, after publicly bashing the club, his teammates and treating them and the fans with such disrespect. Turns out some players are bigger than the club.

Derek · 22-10-2010, 12:52

I wonder how much he is screwing out the club now?

Shadow Demon UK · 22-10-2010, 13:03

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Originally Posted by Damien

Rooney is staying after all, after publicly bashing the club, his teammates and treating them and the fans with such disrespect. Turns out some players are bigger than the club.

Was it him or his agent disrespecting the club though?

I wonder if this means the Glazers have said they are going to spend money on players to keep him or just doubled his wages.

Russ · 22-10-2010, 13:30

My money is this all being a work from day 1. Rooney wanting to leave as far back as August would have been picked up by the press. I reckon this is all a ploy by SAF to manipulate the media and divert attention away from Rooney's extra-matrimonial hat-tricks. SAF is the master of mind games and working the media is part of that. I'm convinced there was never any intentions of him leaving. He's got the deal everyone expected him to sign and suddenly people are concentrating on his performances on the pitch instead of in some brothel.