Campaign For EU Referendum

Ignitionnet · 25-09-2010, 15:46

For the interested: http://www.eureferendumcampaign.com/..._Campaign.html

Not a chance of getting anywhere but hey only takes a couple of minutes to sign up.

Osem · 25-09-2010, 22:08

Despite the fact that they'll just keep rephrasing the question until enough of us vote 'yes' for them to carry on with their grand scheme, I'll be happy to sign up.

**Maggy** · 25-09-2010, 23:37

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Originally Posted by Osem

Despite the fact that they'll just keep rephrasing the question until enough of us vote 'yes' for them to carry on with their grand scheme, I'll be happy to sign up.

How many referendums have we had about the EU? I can only remember one..

Dai · 26-09-2010, 10:34

I vaguely remember being asked if I wanted to join something called the 'Common Market'.

Can't say I ever voted for giving away our sovereignty and national identity. Or providing an over-funded rest home for unwanted and redundant politicians.

Sirius · 26-09-2010, 10:43

I will never say yes to joining the euro.

I would always say yes to getting the hell out of the EU.

Ignitionnet · 26-09-2010, 11:11

The EFTA is the way to go in my opinion. Free movement of goods, people, etc, but no self-serving bureaucracy from Europe.

No common fisheries or agriculture policy disasters, no external trade tariffs, no pouring of gobs of money into a bottomless pit, marvellous.

**Maggy** · 26-09-2010, 12:32

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Originally Posted by DaiNasty

I vaguely remember being asked if I wanted to join something called the 'Common Market'.

Can't say I ever voted for giving away our sovereignty and national identity. Or providing an over-funded rest home for unwanted and redundant politicians.

Me neither.I'd like to know who did decide to move the goal posts or were we being lied to at the time?

Dai · 26-09-2010, 13:38

We have been lied to and deceived by both parties. Neither one has ever had the guts to reveal the end-game. Instead we have been led to the current situation by a 'death of 1000 cuts' - small changes here and there that have led us almost unnoticeably to the destruction of Britain.

Osem · 26-09-2010, 14:01

Is it any wonder the Eurocrats are so keen on Europe when this sort of thing happens is routine:

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Mandelson is still being paid Â£8,000-a-month by EU* (*TAXPAYERS THAT IS) two years after quitting Brussels

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-Brussels.html

.... especially galling coming from those who keep banging on about fat cats, morality and the need for restraint!

Nice 'work' if you can get it eh?...

frogstamper · 29-09-2010, 05:56

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

The EFTA is the way to go in my opinion. Free movement of goods, people, etc, but no self-serving bureaucracy from Europe.

No common fisheries or agriculture policy disasters, no external trade tariffs, no pouring of gobs of money into a bottomless pit, marvellous.

I'd hazard a guess the majority of European voters would happily vote for the above, it seems to me that the Franco-German pact for ever closer political union is becoming evermore unpopular throughout the continent, even amongst the electorate of the two above countries.
France must be ruing the day they agreed to European enlargement...

Ignitionnet · 01-10-2010, 08:29

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Originally Posted by frogstamper

I'd hazard a guess the majority of European voters would happily vote for the above, it seems to me that the Franco-German pact for ever closer political union is becoming evermore unpopular throughout the continent, even amongst the electorate of the two above countries.
France must be ruing the day they agreed to European enlargement...

Reading about the subject more this would appear to be the case. It's ironic that a great proponent of integration, Belgium, now has as its' largest party a separatist group. Not separatist from the EU, but Belgium.

Ireland's economy owes a fair amount of its' pain to the Euro, and it's just crazy throwing so many diverse nations together with a one size fits all policy. Not to mention the ongoing total lack of respect for democratic process when it goes against the federalist agenda.

Osem · 01-10-2010, 11:48

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Reading about the subject more this would appear to be the case. It's ironic that a great proponent of integration, Belgium, now has as its' largest party a separatist group. Not separatist from the EU, but Belgium.

Ireland's economy owes a fair amount of its' pain to the Euro, and it's just crazy throwing so many diverse nations together with a one size fits all policy.Not to mention the ongoing total lack of respect for democratic process when it goes against the federalist agenda.

Yes and those of us who've dared to point that out over the years have always been labelled xenophones and 'little Englanders' in just the same way as those so called 'bigots' who've dared to raise concerns about the effects of mass immigration.....

Now that the EU's in the financial doldrums and people have come to discover that their streets aren't going to paved with gold any time soon, my worry is that, in so blindly following their federal agenda, the Eurocrats will spark off a growing nationalist backlash which could prove very unpleasant.