Jobcentre told woman to put bag over head. - Page 6

Kymmy · 28-09-2010, 17:34

I never suggested that he should have ignored her looks, instead I suggested that he could have put it more tactfully (blunt or not) and pointed it out without getting into "Paper bags"

I also don't deny that it will effect her chances of work.. Perhaps that then needs addressing in employers attitudes than her looks

**Chris** · 28-09-2010, 17:42

I don't think there's a discrete class of person called 'an employer' to blame here. In my experience, the people running interviews are simply ordinary members of middle management from the department doing the recruiting, sometimes supported by someone from HR. And they make their decisions based on perfectly conventional expectations about personal presentation as well as competency. Those expectations are conventional because they are widely held.

28-09-2010, 17:45

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Originally Posted by Kymmy

I never suggested that he should have ignored her looks, instead I suggested that he could have put it more tactfully (blunt or not) and pointed it out without getting into "Paper bags"

I also don't deny that it will effect her chances of work.. Perhaps that then needs addressing in employers attitudes than her looks

Employers usually have good reasons for demanding dress codes and appearance ,apart from H&E there is customer perception to their staff ,if someone looks scruffy then usually their work is and will reflect on the company .It's all about discipline aswell ,if someone refuses to remove or cover up rings/tattoos then it is unlikely they will fall in with company policy ,they will always strive to do things their way and not how they are told

wwe · 28-09-2010, 18:52

from what i seen at the job center they do have an attitude problem. when I'm waiting or go in to use the job points a lot of them are shouting. one girl in there came up to me once and said they pick on you for anything as she forgot to put the dates in her booklet and they said they were not going to pay her her money and the bad thing is she had a kid as well to look after.

28-09-2010, 18:57

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Originally Posted by wwe

from what i seen at the job center they do have an attitude problem. when I'm waiting or go in to use the job points a lot of them are shouting. one girl in there came up to me once and said they pick on you for anything as she forgot to put the dates in her booklet and they said they were not going to pay her her money and the bad thing is she had a kid as well to look after.

That's not an attitude problem though is it .Job center staff have to be strict and authoritarian to discourage people from sitting on the dole .It amazes me how some people see authority as a bad attitude

Gary L · 28-09-2010, 19:17

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That's not an attitude problem though is it .Job center staff have to be strict and authoritarian to discourage people from sitting on the dole .It amazes me how some people see authority as a bad attitude

I don't really agree with that. you could say that someone who's job it is to fine you for dropping litter has to be authorative. but if anybody other than a police officer (as long as it's a woman) spoke to me like I'm a piece of poo. I'd knock them out right there and then

Hom3r · 28-09-2010, 19:30

I worked with a couple who used to do body building, and have full body tattoos, face and hand were free of them.

But due to the job we did we where required to wear anti-static coats, you could not see them.

28-09-2010, 19:33

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Originally Posted by Gary L

I don't really agree with that. you could say that someone who's job it is to fine you for dropping litter has to be authorative. but if anybody other than a police officer (as long as it's a woman) spoke to me like I'm a piece of poo. I'd knock them out right there and then

that depends on how you think and how you define being spoken to like a "piece of poo" .Some people think that just being told what to do and when to do it qualifies as being spoken to like a "piece of poo"

Gary L · 28-09-2010, 19:42

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Originally Posted by martyh

that depends on how you think and how you define being spoken to like a "piece of poo" .Some people think that just being told what to do and when to do it qualifies as being spoken to like a "piece of poo"

I'm sure you'll know at the time.

Ramrod · 28-09-2010, 21:31

Here is another one who would have a tought time finding employment

28-09-2010, 21:37

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Originally Posted by Ramrod

Here is another one who would have a tought time finding employment

why because of the tat or lack thinking material

Ramrod · 29-09-2010, 12:20

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Originally Posted by martyh

why because of the tat or lack thinking material

No, no.....as kymmy said about the woman with the facial piercings; I'm sure that having a tattoo on his forehead doesn't mean that he's stupid or not able to do a job well

Gary L · 29-09-2010, 12:24

He looks stupid, though?

Ramrod · 30-09-2010, 10:05

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Originally Posted by Gary L

He looks stupid, though?

Can't judge a book by its cover........well......mabey you can

Kymmy · 30-09-2010, 10:07

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Originally Posted by Ramrod

No, no.....as kymmy said about the woman with the facial piercings; I'm sure that having a tattoo on his forehead doesn't mean that he's stupid or not able to do a job well

Depends on why the tattoo piercings have been applied, in her case it a statement of who she is... In his case it's a statement of his IQ...