Jobcentre told woman to put bag over head. - Page 2

Digital Fanatic · 27-09-2010, 19:54

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Originally Posted by Juo

She looks awful.

That's a bit harsh! I think she looks ok, but potential employers may be put off and make a judgement before she has even opened her mouth.

**Hugh** · 27-09-2010, 20:41

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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic

That's a bit harsh! I think she looks ok, but potential employers may be put off and make a judgement before she has even opened her mouth.

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Albert Merhabian, a UCLA psychologist, conducted experiments that revealed how people perceive each other. He found that first impressions are based on the following criteria: 55 percent is visual; 38 percent is for our voices, and a mere 7 percent is for what we say

In my opinion, if you make a negative first impression (visual or otherwise), you will have to spend the rest of the interview trying to fix that - why put yourself at an initial disadvantage needlessly?

27-09-2010, 20:56

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Originally Posted by Hugh

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In my opinion, if you make a negative first impression (visual or otherwise), you will have to spend the rest of the interview trying to fix that - why put yourself at an initial disadvantage needlessly?

Because the need to express herself far outweighs the practicalities of getting a job .I bet she is a miz aswell

Gary L · 27-09-2010, 20:58

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Originally Posted by Hugh

In my opinion, if you make a negative first impression (visual or otherwise), you will have to spend the rest of the interview trying to fix that - why put yourself at an initial disadvantage needlessly?

Does that mean if you're ugly you'll be spending the rest of the interview fixing it?

I would say it's all depending on what job she or anyone is after really. not all jobs mean having to have an interview, do they?

Peter_ · 27-09-2010, 21:01

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Originally Posted by Gary L

I would say it's all depending on what job she or anyone is after really. not all jobs mean having to have an interview, do they?

With so many people after jobs nowadays I think you will find that everyone now has to be interviewed before being offered a job as they want the most suitable person.

Caff · 27-09-2010, 21:20

There is no way of knowing how the complete interview went and the previous meetings went. I wonder if he was giving plain, blunt advice.
Would I, as a prospective employer, pick her out because of her looks? Nope. How much of a statement does she need to make?
Does she have other qualities that an employer requires?
She's not really redeeming herself to the fierce competition of the job market.
I think that it's difficult to give advice to people on how to make themselves employable, sometimes, seeing as they couldn't do it for themsalves.
Tact goes a long way: and back to my first sentence.

Gary L · 27-09-2010, 21:22

But aren't we discriminating? or on the border of it?

nomadking · 27-09-2010, 21:25

The aspects of your appearance that you can choose to modify, can be seen to give an indication of your attitude and therefore your suitability to a job.

**Hugh** · 27-09-2010, 21:31

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Originally Posted by Gary L

Does that mean if you're ugly you'll be spending the rest of the interview fixing it?

No - it's not about attractiveness or otherwise (most people aren't so shallow), it's about looking as if you want the job, and are willing to make an effort to fit in (as nomadking says above)

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Originally Posted by Gary L

I would say it's all depending on what job she or anyone is after really. not all jobs mean having to have an interview, do they?

Most jobs now have an interview, at least at the final stage.

Gary L · 27-09-2010, 21:31

But what if you had a mohican, a pierced tongue, dreadlocks, face that looked like you put the make up on with a trowel?

could we get to the stage where the unemployed get told how they have to look if they want benefits?

that would be funny though. all the unemployed going to sign on in suits and wearing acceptable footwear.

Hom3r · 27-09-2010, 21:32

What you can do if you have face studs, is remove them for interviews, and use a wax filler.

One thing any employer will look at is "will this person fit in?" You wouldn't employ a Chelsea fan if all you works supported Millwall

Gary L · 27-09-2010, 21:33

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Originally Posted by Hugh

No - it's not about attractiveness or otherwise (most people aren't so shallow), it's about looking as if you want the job, and are willing to make an effort to fit in

Interesting. goes with my previous post.

**Hugh** · 27-09-2010, 21:35

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Originally Posted by Gary L

Interesting. goes with my previous post.

Not sure what you mean - in most jobs, you will be part of a team, so fitting in is quite important; this doesn't mean, however, that employers are looking for identikit clones - they are (usually) looking for individuals who can also be part of a team.

Hom3r · 27-09-2010, 21:37

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Originally Posted by Gary L

But what if you had a mohican, a pierced tongue, dreadlocks, face that looked like you put the make up on with a trowel?

could we get to the stage where the unemployed get told how they have to look if they want benefits?

Those look would unlikely get a job dealing with the public, and most campanies have dress codes.

Gary L · 27-09-2010, 21:38

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Not sure what you mean - in most jobs, you will be part of a team, so fitting in is quite important; this doesn't mean, however, that employers are looking for identikit clones - they are (usually) looking for individuals who can also be part of a team.

Not necessarily in all cases. she might just want to be a cleaner or something.

does anyone know what work she's looking for?