Where's the money been found.

Arthurgray50@blu · 20-09-2010, 10:55

It really angers me, when this country is being forced to suffer more cutbacks, loss of jobs as there is no money left in the kitty.

The Government has decided to increase its fund to the Pakistan floods.
Where is this money coming from, when you go into supermarkets there are buckets asking for donations, which l glady put money in to help.

But l want to know where is this extra millions coming from.

Don't get me wrong, l feel really sad for the flood victims, and l offer donations, but is a kick in the teeth, when the government give even more millions, when its claimed we don't have the funds, to cover important projects in this country.

Ignitionnet · 20-09-2010, 11:05

At a guess from the existing foreign aid budget.

Either way it's 70 million quid which is a drop in the ocean to be honest.

Pierre · 20-09-2010, 11:05

No matter how hard the cut backs may be in this country, I doubt anyone will be suffering on a scale of those in the Pakistan flood region.

The money no-doubt will already be in a foreign disaster aid budget alreadey accounted for, so don't worry alf.

jb66 · 20-09-2010, 11:22

Why not just give all our money away as there is always someone else worse off?

**Maggy** · 20-09-2010, 11:50

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

It really angers me, when this country is being forced to suffer more cutbacks, loss of jobs as there is no money left in the kitty.

The Government has decided to increase its fund to the Pakistan floods.
Where is this money coming from, when you go into supermarkets there are buckets asking for donations, which l glady put money in to help.

But l want to know where is this extra millions coming from.

Don't get me wrong, l feel really sad for the flood victims, and l offer donations, but is a kick in the teeth, when the government give even more millions, when its claimed we don't have the funds, to cover important projects in this country.

**Chris** · 20-09-2010, 12:09

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Originally Posted by jb66

Why not just give all our money away as there is always someone else worse off?

Because then we wouldn't be in a position to keep the country running and make more money to give away in future.

Arthurgray50@blu · 20-09-2010, 12:15

They already have a few million from us already, so why add to it, all over the world there are disasters, and like the great nation we are, we are always offering money to these countries.

But to me it is like a kick in the nuts, when WE are told about cutbacks and the fear of jobs cuts etc, and we have been told what we have to shelve as there isn't any money there, the government come up with this further donation, this is the second donation we have made, doesn't make sense.

Woolly One · 20-09-2010, 12:23

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

At a guess from the existing foreign aid budget.

Either way it's 70 million quid which is a drop in the ocean to be honest.

IIRC foreign aid was one of the things that were 'ring fenced'. So the money had already been stuffed away in a mattress for a 'rainy day'. No joke intended.

20-09-2010, 13:03

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Either way it's 70 million quid which is a drop in the ocean to be honest.

Nice pun there.....sick.....but nice!!

Ignitionnet · 20-09-2010, 13:30

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Originally Posted by LSainsbury

Nice pun there.....sick.....but nice!!

Well noticed that man. I thought no-one had spotted it

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

But to me it is like a kick in the nuts, when WE are told about cutbacks and the fear of jobs cuts etc, and we have been told what we have to shelve as there isn't any money there, the government come up with this further donation, this is the second donation we have made, doesn't make sense.

The deficit is structural. Labour spent too much that they couldn't fund, both as part of a wider public sector expansion and to take up some slack from recession. The cutbacks are only to about 2005-6 level, why is this so hard to comprehend?

What is the fundamental malfunction? The size of the public sector goes down as well as up, one cannot simply endlessly expand the public sector until we have 2 people waiting to wipe the arse of each person in the private sector. It's too big, too inefficient, and either it shrinks or our taxes go up and the private sector is crowded out.

If you are socialist minded just say so. The socialist point of view made this mess, the centrist one will get us out.

Either way it's nothing at all to do with the foreign aid budget, which per previous had already been accounted for and is not a huge amount of money next to the deficit that is being tackled.

**Chris** · 20-09-2010, 14:05

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BBKing · 20-09-2010, 14:12

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It really angers me, when this country is being forced to suffer more cutbacks, loss of jobs as there is no money left in the kitty.

There is money in the kitty, the cutbacks are *ideological ones*, in order to reduce taxes for the rich. The clue is in the words 'Conservative Party'.

Aid for Pakistan, apart from being morally correct, is peanuts compared both to the wealth of the UK *and* the actual need on the ground in Pakistan.

**Chris** · 20-09-2010, 14:17

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Originally Posted by BBKing

There is money in the kitty, the cutbacks are *ideological ones*, in order to reduce taxes for the rich. The clue is in the words 'Conservative Party'.

So, that's the emerging Lefty strategy for spinning against the cuts, is it?

Don't suppose I should be surprised.

20-09-2010, 14:25

70 million from a ring fenced budget is completely irrelevent to the cuts that are coming because of the last governments incompetence. I really do laugh my head off at all the socialists now running around making the coalition out to be this evil thing intent on doing total harm and damage to the lower end of society in this country it's pathetic to be honest remember who put us in the mess in the first place. Arthur if you are going to keep getting worked up over nothing stories can i suggest for the sake of your health that you stop buying the red tops. Must be a slow news day if this is the best anyone has to get worked up about but never mind the amnesiac socialists will be able to go completely nuts soon so all will be well with the world

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Ignitionnet · 20-09-2010, 16:10

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Originally Posted by BBKing

There is money in the kitty, the cutbacks are *ideological ones*, in order to reduce taxes for the rich. The clue is in the words 'Conservative Party'.

I guess Labour's deficit reduction plan was ideological as well? The clue presumably being in the words 'Labour Party'.

I don't think anyone is talking about reducing taxes right now. The deficit reduces the state to a level where it will be supported by current tax levels, not much room for wholesale tax cuts for a while, bills to pay.

The 1990s called, they want their anti-Tory leftist rhetoric back.

Of course, if you have some basis for this it'd be good to see and I'd be quite happily to apologise wholeheartedly.