Hampshire police force shedding 1400 staff - Page 3

Derek · 10-09-2010, 21:39

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Originally Posted by Lew

Why does the idea of PeteL joining the police make me think of Constable Savage?

10-09-2010, 21:41

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Originally Posted by PeteL

no i dont agree when your fresh out of training boom your on 25k a soldier on 17, but unlike some im not joining because im a money grabbing selfish SOB

In my opinion there is a huge difference between the 'standard' requirements for passing basic training in the Army & the Police Force.

In the Army the bottom line is that you can do the drill, take orders & 'fit in'.

The Police Force is more about individual performance - much of the work a Police Officer has to do is 'one on one' in that they are often required to deal with situations before any potential backup is available.

PeteL - to be honest if I was your basic training instructor I would fail you on the basis you have pre-conceived attitudes that might affect your ability to take orders - for example if you were required to support the Police ....

Arthurgray50@blu · 11-09-2010, 10:47

Training in the police is much more tougher, the stress is unreal, and l was a special, and my son is a PCSO, and what l believe is happening is totally appalling, the crime rate will go up, if the forces have to cut jobs, it will put more pressure onto forces, to provide front line officers.

If a member of your family goes out and gets attacked, and you require 'frontline' officers to turn up, there won't be any, and people will start moaning, 'where is the old bill when you need them' local officers will be cut, my son has been told that they are employing more 'specials' why ? becuase they volunteer, he has been told, pack in the police and become a special, if you want to wear a policeman uniform.

Sirius · 11-09-2010, 11:06

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BO8EpfyCG2Y

To be honest there are a few i would aim that at

alferret · 11-09-2010, 21:16

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Bit of a snip
the crime rate will go up if the forces have to cut jobs, it will put more pressure onto forces, to provide front line officers.

Not being funny but they havnt actually said they will be cutting front line services have they (unless I missed something) I would assume there are plenty of paper-pushing backroom staff that could\would go before the guys\gals on the street are pushed onto the dole\made redundant\take redundancy voluntarily.

Also if the present government keep their promise of cutting paperwork & red tape that the police have to deal with in relation to a crime, by streamlining that part of the work would allow an officer to get back on the street quicker therefore there would be room to cut some front line officers as well as backroom staff so in effect crime shouldnt go up even if less police were employed by the said force.
Hope that makes some sense

Arthurgray50@blu · 12-09-2010, 20:20

This country needs MORE on the streets, NOT LESS, Crime WILL increase, when any member of this forum gets robbed or beaten up in the street or gets or needs the police, and there arnt any, people will whing like hell.

Crime will increase so much it will be like America.

**Hugh** · 12-09-2010, 20:38

Normal service will be resumed as soon as possible.

Keep calm, and carry on.

MovedGoalPosts · 13-09-2010, 09:27

Whilst there may be scope for cutting some paperwork, primarily stuff that is collecting statistics and targets on this that and the other, most paperwork related to crime will remain. Unless Defence Lawyers are going to roll over and ignore technicalities that procedures weren't followed, the paperwork saying they were will still be required in exhaustive detail. Yes there is a phenomenal amount of paperwork, but most of that is directly attributable to court procedures. If savings are to be made then one needs to look at the real area of inefficiency in the justice system, the court procedures.

Dai · 13-09-2010, 09:41

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Originally Posted by Rob

Whilst there may be scope for cutting some paperwork, primarily stuff that is collecting statistics and targets on this that ...

Damn right. And the seat-polishers at the top of the heap are not going to let go without a fight.

http://inspectorgadget.wordpress.com...esa-may-shock/

MovedGoalPosts · 13-09-2010, 16:32

Sussex Police have also announced 1050 jobs are at risk: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-11288184

No doubt other police forces will be making similar announcements in the near future.

Sirius · 13-09-2010, 16:35

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

This country needs MORE on the streets, NOT LESS, Crime WILL increase, when any member of this forum gets robbed or beaten up in the street or gets or needs the police, and there arnt any, people will whing like hell.

Crime will increase so much it will be like America.

PeteLockwood · 13-09-2010, 16:40

greater manchester is also shedding a load.. perhaps i was a bit of a tit in what i said did not realise this would affect so many people

Arthurgray50@blu · 13-09-2010, 17:40

This government is a disgrace for even thinking about this. Cutbacks is one thing, but ripping the police forces to bits is another.

I think that idiot Cameron and the puppet, should get rid of the staff that they have to save money, and stop feburbing building that don't need it. What they are doing is allowing crime to increase, this is similar to what thhat bitch Thatcher did with the poll tax, and that was anarchy on our streets.

PeteLockwood · 13-09-2010, 17:42

unfortunately arthur things like this are inevitable we as a country are in a desperate situation as you know and there is always going to be bad decisions made during the cost cutting i dont understand why trident is going ahead personaly (silo's would be a cheaper alternative?)

ps, not just the police the armed forces are also to be shafted and the entire tax paying population if these planned strikes by pretty much the entire civil sector workforce go ahead

**Hugh** · 13-09-2010, 17:44

"fefurbing"?

Even for you, Arthur, that's gibberish.

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Originally Posted by PeteL

unfortunately arthur things like this are inevitable we as a country are in a desperate situation as you know and there is always going to be bad decisions made during the cost cutting i dont understand why trident is going ahead personaly (silo's would be a cheaper alternative?)

ps, not just the police the armed forces are also to be shafted

Erm, Trident is a moving target, unlike silos.....