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Old 21-08-2010, 11:30   #16
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Re: BT is faster than Virginmedia Broadband

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Free VM upgrades to a ratio of 10:1 have already started to be rolled out I understand.
Can't wait for this to reach the area I am in and I know I said I'd roll on the floor with Mick but unfortunately I must take back that offer as I'm not a fully abled person. I could smile across the internet politely though
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Old 21-08-2010, 11:43   #17
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Re: BT is faster than Virginmedia Broadband

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Free VM upgrades to a ratio of 10:1 have already started to be rolled out I understand.
I wonder what's gonna happen to the business 10Mb once this is rolled out??
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Old 21-08-2010, 12:20   #18
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Re: BT is faster than Virginmedia Broadband

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"BT is faster than Virginmedia Broadband"

One should read the following independent review of ISP Broadband speeds in Britain, done by Ofcom and see which ISP performs better overall - The review was about customers not always getting the speeds advertised, Virgin Media faired better than DSL providers:-

http://media.ofcom.org.uk/2010/07/27...rtised-speeds/
I love how Ofcom find that Virgin Medias Upto 10Mb is actually faster (on average) than BT's upto 20Mb.

But of course download speeds doesnt appear to be what this man wants, as
running a website he will value upload more than his download speed. And of course if it is upload speeds he desires than any isp will recomend a business line, not a home line as that is not what they are intended for.
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Re: BT is faster than Virginmedia Broadband

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I love how Ofcom find that Virgin Medias Upto 10Mb is actually faster (on average) than BT's upto 20Mb.

But of course download speeds doesnt appear to be what this man wants, as
running a website he will value upload more than his download speed. And of course if it is upload speeds he desires than any isp will recomend a business line, not a home line as that is not what they are intended for.
That's easily done, VM's "up to" 10Mb is FTTC, up until now BT's offerings have been hampered due to copper from the exchange, further away, slower your speed.

Now BT Infinity are rolling out FTTC at long last. Strange when BT have been more involved in development of fibre optics than VM.
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Re: BT is faster than Virginmedia Broadband

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Now BT Infinity are rolling out FTTC at long last. Strange when BT have been more involved in development of fibre optics than VM.
Please stop its making me split my sides

BT have had no choice or there broadband would stay in the dark ages. What they are about to offer is nothing new to be honest, Cable have been doing fibre to the local cab for ages. All Bt are doing is copying what cable have already done, Most of what BT is doing is fibre to the cab, with the last km in copper. However i feel VM has a few things up its sleeves,

BTW i have designed and implemented over 30 km of fibre in one town alone in the northwest in the last 3 months for VM Business, That's in and carrying traffic, Fibre is nothing new to vm.
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Re: BT is faster than Virginmedia Broadband

I think that everyone posting here should try this link, just put in your postcode and it will tell you the average speeds for each supplier in your area, I wonder who will on average be higher.

http://www.broadbandspeedchecker.co....y_area_v2.aspx
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Re: BT is faster than Virginmedia Broadband

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Please stop its making me split my sides

BT have had no choice or there broadband would stay in the dark ages. What they are about to offer is nothing new to be honest, Cable have been doing fibre to the local cab for ages. All Bt are doing is copying what cable have already done, Most of what BT is doing is fibre to the cab, with the last km in copper. However i feel VM has a few things up its sleeves,

BTW i have designed and implemented over 30 km of fibre in one town alone in the northwest in the last 3 months for VM Business, That's in and carrying traffic, Fibre is nothing new to vm.
This comment just goes to show how good the hamstringing was when the GPO was segmented and privatised.

You will find, if you look, that BT (or previously the GPO) played a much bigger part in the research and development of the miniscule amount of the technology that you have spent 3 months installing, and continue to do so. VM just use it.

Goes back years

"Newman, looking to solve the problems with Robinson, was put in touch with Tommy Flowers, a talented electronics engineer working for the Post Office at Dollis Hill.

Tommy Flowers’ design solved the problems of Robinson in an innovative way. Rather than using paper tape to store the pseudorandom sequence, Flowers replicated it electronically using a huge array of valves. This saved using two tapes and solved the synchronisation problems. The use of valves for digital switching was also a groundbreaking step which offered a huge increase in operating speed over mechanical relays (valves at the time were regarded by most as unreliable components used for amplifying analog signals.)

Design of Colossus started in March 1943 and the first unit was operational at Bletchley Park in January 1944. Colossus was immediately successful, and the Colossus – Tunny combination allowed ‘high grade’ German codes to be decoded in hours. This proved immensely useful during the D-Day landings. The parallel design of Colossus made it incredibly fast even by today’s standards, a modern Pentium PC programmed to do the same decoding task taking twice as long to break the code."

The GPO as was and BT as is continue to lead the way in R&D but are still hamstrung by successive governments.

2004

BT is begin limited trials of fibre-to-the-home to assess its technical and commercial viability.

Up to 1,500 homes and businesses in Martlesham Heath in Suffolk, Milton Keynes and London's Docklands are to have fibre lines up and running in October.

New fibre optic cables are to be installed between BT exchanges and the properties of those taking part in the year-long trial.

See also

Significant research efforts and early manufacturing investments
came from many UK-based companies including Standard Telephones
and Cables (STC – now Nortel Networks), British Telecom (BT), Plessey
and GEC in the 1980s. The early development of the fibre-optics
industry owed much to BT,
which pioneered the development of
modern “singlemode” fibre optics in the 1970s, and R&D support
programmes from the Department of Trade and Industry (DTI) nurtured
the industry’s growth.


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Re: BT is faster than Virginmedia Broadband

Will be interesting to see just what BT Infinity really offers though. It's due to be available in my area on 30th September. Due to distance from the exchange I used to get a maximum of 3 Mb/s with ADSL, despite the BT checker claiming 4.5 Mb/s should be possible.

The BT infinity checker claims I should be able to get a download speed of 15.7 Mb/s and an upload speed of 7.1 Mb/s. Seems a bit lower than I'd hoped, especially since the new FTTC box for BT is about 200m away, and is next to the one I know my BT line passes through as it was pointed out to me by a BT engineer when I had a line fault.

So I for one won't be moving away from Virgin. For me their 10 Mb/s business sevrices has been very good. Though the service is startign to look dated with 768 Kb/s upload. I am hopeful they will revise this in the later uarter of this year when they offer the 50 Mb/s business service and fixed IP option onthe 20 Mb/s service.
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Re: BT is faster than Virginmedia Broadband

I don't think Infinity will tempt many away from VM if this post is correct...
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=2668513
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Mis-sold BT Infinity - What next? Legal action?
I am writing this in the hope that some one is in the same situation as myself.

At the end of July, I ordered BT Inifinty Option 2 which I had installed in due course. All was going fine until I received an email advising my that as I had now used over 100Gb for the month, my speed was being capped from 40Mb/s to 2Mb/s, with my upload speed reduced also.
Now I'm assuming Option 2 is the "unlimited" BT product and not the ludicrous 20GB cap offering.

The only reason for needing higher than ~ 2Mbps is to enable high speed downloads. A 100GB cap is going to go nowhere with a family just using iPlayer let alone one with teenagers downloading huge game demos regularly etc. etc.

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A later post in that same thread now says BY have increased the cap to 300GB. This probably will be enough for many users but falls a long way short of VM.
http://community.bt.com/t5/BB-in-Hom...p/35371/page/5
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