Speed cameras axed over funding

[Angua]

Originally Posted by Kymmy

Very poor point to make..

The car can only break the speed limit by the drivers actions.. The cars not to blame..

Also the speed limits might be archaic but whilst they are there then they simply are the law. It's not upto us to say that we don;t think this should be a 30 zone so we'll instead do 50..

Point being why do we have cars that will do such speeds. What is the point or use for them. In terms of safety cars have got better & better where speed limits have got progressively lower. I cycle most days so driving is not really an issue for me.

I specifically mentioned out of town and built up areas which you omitted in the quote. Town speed limits are sensible because of pedestrians.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Kymmy

Also the speed limits might be archaic but whilst they are there then they simply are the law. It's not upto us to say that we don;t think this should be a 30 zone so we'll instead do 50..

What speeds are we talking here? you've added 20 on top. isn't 5 on top enough to be a speeding motorist that deserves to be fined?

[Kymmy]

Originally Posted by Angua

Point being why do we have cars that will do such speeds..

Autobahns???

Easier to make one model that does all speeds than many models for different speeds, plus the top speed tends to be a combinatiopn of gearing and capable engine power. This gives the car better acceleration, handling but also has the by product of better top speed.

It's still people that break the laws not the cars You don't see us fining the cars for breaking the speed limit

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Kymmy

Autobahns???

Where's the nearest Autobahn in the UK. Google's not much help.

[Kymmy]

Never said there was, but as cars don't tend be made "just" for the UK it was a valid answer to the question

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Kymmy

Never said there was, but as cars don't tend be made "just" for the UK it was a valid answer to the question

And the only valid answer to the question

Originally Posted by Gary L

And the only valid answer to the question

Unless of course you take your car on track days, where you can go above the national speed limit.

Or if you are driving a emergency services vehicle to/from an incident, which is also allowed.

[Kymmy]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

Unless of course you take your car on track days, where you can go above the national speed limit.

Or if you are driving a emergency services vehicle to/from an incident, which is also allowed.

Also in one of my previous jobs I regulary took UK production cars to 150mph legally

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

Or if you are driving a emergency services vehicle to/from an incident, which is also allowed.

Oh I forgot about the Police.

Are you any good with figures? can you work out the percentage of cars made/sold/used in the UK there are to how many cars used in the emergency services?

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Originally Posted by Kymmy

Also in one of my previous jobs I regulary took UK production cars to 150mph legally

Oh we've all done that at one time or another. not all of us got paid for it though

[Kymmy]

Originally Posted by Gary L

Oh I forgot about the Police.

Are you any good with figures? can you work out the percentage of cars made/sold/used in the UK there are to how many cars used in the emergency services?

You mean you can't do it yourself for your own argument.. Now that says it all

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Kymmy

You mean you can't do it yourself for your own argument.. Now that says it all

It doesn't say nothing. you not answering my previous questions says more

[Kymmy]

Yawn....

The simple facts are that the speed cameras are there to stop idiots, they do a good job but won't stop them all.. Me personally I'd love them to link together every cctv camera in the country and do a full ANPR SPECs network.. It wouldn't effect me in the slightest because I know what speed I'm doing and I'm in full control of the vehicle..

Break the speeding laws you get punished if caught and not the car which is capable of doing 155+ on a german autobahn.. The cars never at fault, take a driver out of a Bugati Veryon and how many speed limits will it break...not one..

Now try googling your own emergency services question, but as you can't even google autobahns and distance from the UK I don't hold out much hope

Originally Posted by Stuart C

But it's Central Government who cut the grant, not the local council. Why would the Government stop funding something if they were making a profit?

foil hat time

maybe it's a red herring ,the cameras will still be fully active we are just told they will be turned off so we all start speeding again thus raising more revenue ...

[Kymmy]

Single position camera's have never been a fantastic money earner, everyone know's they're there and people just slow down and speed up. Specs or mobile cameras are a lot better system, perhaps the goverment is finally seeing this

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Kymmy

Yawn....

The simple facts are that the speed cameras are there to stop idiots,

They don't discriminate against idiots and those doing a speed that is acceptable on all other roads of the same limit.

it's acceptable to speed* everywhere, only time we all start pointing is when there's Police about or there's a speed camera.

*as little as 5mph over is speeding.

The cars never at fault, take a driver out of a Bugati Veryon and how many speed limits will it break...not one..

Has anybody stupid enough suggested otherwise?

Now try googling your own emergency services question, but as you can't even google autobahns and distance from the UK I don't hold out much hope

I was just interested. it wasn't a basis for an argument or anything.

Have you ever gone over 30 in a 30 or over 40 in a 40. and would you class yourself as a speeder, or not a speeder because you're talking excessive speeds unlike the rest of us