Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. II

[jagsman]

I dont think Virgin will be too bothered if people start to cancel their Sports/Movies subs. Virgin do not make enough of a profit on these channels for it to make much of a difference. Remember, only about 20% of subscribers take the Sports/Movies.

As for the current TV packs, we as Virgin customers get an ever improving selection of HD channels for "no extra cost", we get ESPN's 4(soon to be 5) channels included in the price of the XL pack, and we also have the choice of taking SKY's sports and/or Movie channels amongst other premium content.

Now Virgin are giving us he chance to get some of these premium channels in HD, if you want them. Their pricing of these channels has been set by the company who owns these channels, SKY. Virgin, I think, would love to give us these channels "at no extra cost", but they are a business, so therefore they have to make money so that they can continue to trade. So they cannot buy something, then give it away for nothing.

If you want these extra channels, you will pay. If you dont want them, then you wont pay, simple as that. It's up to each individual to get what they want.

As for the pricing structure of these and any other pay TV channels, if you want to blame someone, blame SKY. Why? Well, when SKY started they started throwing money around as though it was going out of fashion. You only have to look at what they pay for Premiershit football. They are paying roughly £350m a season. Now everyone knows that there is no other company who would be able to come close to offering that amount of money, so they could quite easily have offered £250m or even £200m, and they would still have got the gig. Just to prove this point, when the OFCOM rulings came out, the FA, Premier League, RFU, ECB, PDC and a few others were all ******** bricks, because they all rely on SKY's over-generous offers to survive.

The one thing that I cannot agree with is this "per box" ********. We all pay to get the Cable/Satellite installed, then we pay for whatever box we want, then we pay for whatever content we want. Having to pay extra for the same content on an extra box is tantamount to theft. Put it like this, what would people say if the Govt decided that you had to pay a license fee for each TV in your home. This is the one thing that OFCOM should have kicked into touch as soon as SKY started it. But its too late now, because they know that if they upset SKY too much, football, cricket, rugby and darts would collapse under the weight of debt, when SKY said "we're off".

Anyway back on topic.
Film4 HD tomorrow, yeehaa

[ChrisLUFC22]

Originally Posted by jagsman

...Virgin, I think, would love to give us these channels "at no extra cost", but they are a business, so therefore they have to make money so that they can continue to trade. So they cannot buy something, then give it away for nothing.

Amen

[TheDon]

Originally Posted by howardmicks

Big Time,I know of at least 4 mates that have been in touch with sky today to return and getting the half price 12month sky world deal.

I'll be doing the same.

I can drop the Sky premiums and get Sky World + HD from sky for the same price.

Infact, I'm contemplating dropping VM TV altogether for a while, and then returning on a mates rates deal once Tivo is launched, so I'll end up paying VM even less.

[mattboothers]

What is this Sky World stuff-dunt make sense.

[Big Red]

Originally Posted by alwaysabear

It does not say either that future charges may apply to premium HD channels and neither does my contract!

'premium television services'
that part of the services which relates to television channels which are offered for sale to you as add-ons to basic packages of television services. These services are provided to you by Virgin Media Entertainment.

[LondonRoad]

VM survived, and indeed prospered, when they refused to pay the unreasonable amounts set by Sky for the Sky basics in SD. I'm sure they'll survive the small percentage of people who leave over this.

Personally I won't be paying for HD. In fact I won't even be subscribing to Sky Sports until the red button is working.

[alwaysabear]

Originally Posted by Big Red

'premium television services'
that part of the services which relates to television channels which are offered for sale to you as add-ons to basic packages of television services. These services are provided to you by Virgin Media Entertainment.

Enlighten me

[trevrpb]

Originally Posted by Chad

NOWHERE does it say additional, premium HD content would be charged.

Blimey...ALL of you quoting this are not going to get it are you. Definete brick wall going there.

That was the advert for the current packages. Do ANY of you realise that both the SS & SM are premium and additional content that were not available and at no point be factored into any decision when you signed up. SS & SM HD were not available, and were not slated to be available, so Virgin would not have accounted for SS & SM HD when running it....and should not have been expected to cover every bloody HD possibility.

The advert is and was correct and not misleading in ANY shape or form as while it has been run, there was and has been NO charge for HD. That SS and SM HD is going to be available changes the playing field and future adverts will be reworded or a disclaimer added.

But it seems that for some of you think that perhaps Virgin should have written a legal dialogue with their adverts to cover every possible future channel line up be it in SD / HD or anything else D, so that those of you who seem to want something for nothing can fully understand what you are actually paying for in the first place and know what you may have to pay a little extra for in the future...if you want the extra.

I'm a happy Vigin Subscriber who will gladly and finally watching SKY Premier League games once again in glorious HD, all for a the price of a couple of pints a month....yep thats all. BRING IT ON

[Big Red]

Originally Posted by LondonRoad

Personally I won't be paying for HD. In fact I won't even be subscribing to Sky Sports until the red button is working.

Talking of red button - this will not be available when the channel is launched but it will be up and running in time for the Multi Screen Champs League games.

Football First seems to be too early for VM to get it working.

[jtaylor06]

Virgin Media Entertainment:

"When it comes to premium TV, Virgin Media Entertainment know what's what. Formed in 2009, we're the trading name of Future Entertainment S.Ã*.r.l - a subsidiary of "Virgin Media Inc." and supply a whole range of premium TV channels to Virgin Media customers."

"Sky Sports and Sky Movies are provided to you by Virgin Media Entertainment.
Virgin Media Entertainment is the trading name of Future Entertainment S.Ã*.r.l which is a subsidiary of Virgin Media Inc.;
Company number: R.C.S. Luxembourg B N° 145.414; Registered address: MediaCenter Betzdorf, 11 rue Pierre Werner, L-6832 Betzdorf, Luxembourg."

http://www.virginmediaentertainment....ges/About.aspx

[trevrpb]

Originally Posted by LondonRoad

VM survived, and indeed prospered, when they refused to pay the unreasonable amounts set by Sky for the Sky basics in SD. I'm sure they'll survive the small percentage of people who leave over this..

Well said that man

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by Big Red

Talking of red button - this will not be available when the channel is launched but it will be up and running in time for the Multi Screen Champs League games.

Football First seems to be too early for VM to get it working.

Another coming soon ha ha.

[Tijer]

vip pack certainly IS NOT value for money now! Meant to be the top package on virgin... now its not whats the point in even having it?

[Opinion]

Originally Posted by trevrpb

Blimey...ALL of you quoting this are not going to get it are you. Definete brick wall going there.

That was the advert for the current packages. Do ANY of you realise that both the SS & SM are premium and additional content that were not available and at no point be factored into any decision when you signed up. SS & SM HD were not available, and were not slated to be available, so Virgin would not have accounted for SS & SM HD when running it....and should not have been expected to cover every bloody HD possibility.

The advert is and was correct and not misleading in ANY shape or form as while it has been run, there was and has been NO charge for HD. That SS and SM HD is going to be available changes the playing field and future adverts will be reworded or a disclaimer added.

But it seems that for some of you think that perhaps Virgin should have written a legal dialogue with their adverts to cover every possible future channel line up be it in SD / HD or anything else D, so that those of you who seem to want something for nothing can fully understand what you are actually paying for in the first place and know what you may have to pay a little extra for in the future...if you want the extra.

I'm a happy Vigin Subscriber who will gladly and finally watching SKY Premier League games once again in glorious HD, all for a the price of a couple of pints a month....yep thats all. BRING IT ON

couldn't agree more.

[Big Red]

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