Human Rights Act to be retained
17-05-2010, 17:45
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Human Rights Act to be retained
Good. Lib Dems are pulling a fast one here and making retention of the Act a resigning issue. Note that a) Justice Secretary Ken Clarke knows the score and isn't an idiot and b) Lord Tom McNally is also in his department and is a thoroughly sound left wing Lib Dem, who started off in the Labour Party.
So, tabloids and shrill idiots, up yours. A victory for British justice.
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17-05-2010, 18:14
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Re: Human Rights Act to be retained
Don't suppose you would have a link?
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17-05-2010, 18:28
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Re: Human Rights Act to be retained
There's a Telegraph article, plus following a lot of Lib Dems on Twitter yesterday (Huhne and McNally made it clear to their conference that they'd resign if the HRA was scrapped) but mainly the people put into Justice aren't the people you'd put in to serve a tabloid anti-human rights agenda, they've got their own minds (Clarke) and firm principles (McNally).
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...ights-Act.html
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17-05-2010, 19:11
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Re: Human Rights Act to be retained
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He said: “On these Home Office things it is the duty of politicians to stand up to the tabloids, to turn around and argue, not let them whip up feelings that are inaccurate.”
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Well that sounds good but frankly the tabloids have been given too much power by all parties including his. 
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17-05-2010, 19:19
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Re: Human Rights Act to be retained
and how exactly is this good news ? i thought it was possibly the most hated piece of euro legislation there was 
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17-05-2010, 19:28
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Re: Human Rights Act to be retained
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and how exactly is this good news ? i thought it was possibly the most hated piece of euro legislation there was |
By some - to others, it is an excellent piece of legislation sometimes abused by lawyers, and is a handy scapegoat for the tabloid press to hang their vilifications upon.
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17-05-2010, 19:28
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Re: Human Rights Act to be retained
yay more terrorists can stay in the country.
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17-05-2010, 19:33
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Really? Provide a link to the relevant section of the Human Rights Acts that permits that please.
Thanks 
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17-05-2010, 19:40
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Re: Human Rights Act to be retained
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Really? Provide a link to the relevant section of the Human Rights Acts that permits that please.
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Article 3.
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to...icle715558.ece
It's not ideal, in fact personally I think it's a complete pain in the rear, but I can't ever see it being repealed.
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17-05-2010, 19:43
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Re: Human Rights Act to be retained
The problem is that you either have human rights for all or you have human rights for no one.There is no halfway house.It's all or nothing. 
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17-05-2010, 19:52
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Re: Human Rights Act to be retained
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17-05-2010, 19:53
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Re: Human Rights Act to be retained
I don't think there are many people who would want a complete repealing of the HRA but a rewrite and some common sense brought into it would be very welcome. Right now this piece of legislation is responsible for some truly stupid rulings and waste of both public money and court time. Sorry but any legislation that can be used by criminals to profit for themselves after commiting a crime needs binning and rewriting but then maybe i am just being too intolerent and right wing .
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The problem is that you either have human rights for all or you have human rights for no one.There is no halfway house.It's all or nothing. |
Then i vote nothing until they re-write it and get it right. There are to many cases of barristers using it to get the **** of the world off on a HRA technicality
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17-05-2010, 19:56
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Re: Human Rights Act to be retained
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I don't think there are many people who would want a complete repealing of the HRA but a rewrite and some common sense brought into it would be very welcome.
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Yep. The thought behind it is admirable but the implementation leaves a lot to be desired. Other countries don't seem to have the same problems the UK has with it.
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17-05-2010, 19:57
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Re: Human Rights Act to be retained
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The problem is that you either have human rights for all or you have human rights for no one.There is no halfway house.It's all or nothing. |
yes you can have human rights for everyone ,but as forever said this particular piece of legislation gets abused and we end up with criminals using it to get shorter sentences or compensation or illegal immigrants being allowed to stay the list goes on ,and a lot of the time human rights have not been broken .
There has to be some leaway within the legislation to stop criminals abusing it
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