Do Muslim kids visit churches as part of their education? - Page 4

Russ · 13-05-2010, 19:37

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Originally Posted by j52c

I was in our church choir when i was 10 years old and for another 3 years after that and we had to make the sign of the cross as we passed the alter on our way to our seats, and when we took bread and wine during the holy communion, it was taught as a matter of respect.

Catholicism teaches that many things are 'sinful' without there being any biblical evidence to support it. I get the respect thing but to not do those things is not against anything written in the bible.

Saaf_laandon_mo · 13-05-2010, 19:55

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Originally Posted by Gary L

I knew this was coming. because I knew you could Google part of the quote and find out where it came from. like you usually do anyway.

Only you, foreverwar, only you.........

As a muslim I can clearly re-inforce what Forever is saying. The Shahada is a declaration of faith. And you do not have to say it when entering a church.

Sirius · 13-05-2010, 19:58

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Originally Posted by Gary L

Well I don't know if someone is going to be offended on my behalf for what you say. so I'll just advise you stick your fingers in your ears and hum a tune for a bit.

Let me tell you what i think and what most probably also think of you. You are a racist and you take great pleasure in creating as many racially orientated threads as you can to stir the pot. Is that clear enough for you or would pictures be better.

Now no doubt you will go running to the mods or red rep me or even send me a nasty pm. Look at my avatar and say does that look like a face that gives a ****.

Saaf_laandon_mo · 13-05-2010, 20:05

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Originally Posted by Gary L

Well I don't know if someone is going to be offended on my behalf for what you say. so I'll just advise you stick your fingers in your ears and hum a tune for a bit.

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Originally Posted by Sirius

Let me tell you what i think and what most probably also think of you. You are a racist and you take great pleasure in creating as many racially orientated threads as you can to stir the pot. Is that clear enough for you or would pictures be better.

Now no doubt you will go running to the mods or red rep me or even send me a nasty pm. Look at my avatar and say does that look like a face that gives a ****.

Well said Sirius.

Russ · 13-05-2010, 20:13

If members can't be civil in this thread, stay OUT of it.

Sirius · 13-05-2010, 20:21

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Originally Posted by Russ

If members can't be civil in this thread, stay OUT of it.

I will i just had to speak my mind

Arthurgray50@blu · 13-05-2010, 20:33

I wish people would stop slagging people off on this forum/thread, look at me, l am still here, people have different opions, and therefore should NOT be slagged off for what they think.

I say what l think, l may be right or wrong, but l accept what other people say, so try and be civil to each other.

Gary L · 13-05-2010, 20:45

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

I wish people would stop slagging people off on this forum/thread, look at me, l am still here, people have different opions, and therefore should NOT be slagged off for what they think.

I say what l think, l may be right or wrong, but l accept what other people say, so try and be civil to each other.

Well said Arthur.

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Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo

As a muslim I can clearly re-inforce what Forever is saying. The Shahada is a declaration of faith. And you do not have to say it when entering a church.

Thanks for letting us all know.

**Hugh** · 13-05-2010, 20:49

1 Corinthians 11:5 But every woman who prays with her head uncovered disgraces her head. It is exactly the same as if she had a shaved head. Indeed, if a woman's head is not covered let her head be shaved.

downquark1 · 13-05-2010, 20:52

Some light hearted humour about Islam, I was reading the Quran and after it describes who a woman can expose herself to it says that : older women not seeking to inspire lust can remove clothes as they wish... but it is preferred that they don't.

Made me chuckle.

Xaccers · 13-05-2010, 21:53

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Why is it that our kids are being told that if you don't abide by other religious rules, ie the kid in question, IF my child doesn't want to wear a certain bit of clothing to go into a certain religious building, then she should not be forced too, and told to wait outside, l get really fed up with all this religious stuff being shuvved down our throat.

Someone check my forehead, I agree with Arthur.
The school should have realised that there are small minded parents who would object to their children learning, and made plans, either have the kids do RE homework to make up for what they're missing out on and make the parents look after their sprogs all day, or they attend other classes' lessons.

13-05-2010, 22:13

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Why is it that our kids are being told that if you don't abide by other religious rules, ie the kid in question, IF my child doesn't want to wear a certain bit of clothing to go into a certain religious building, then she should not be forced too, and told to wait outside, l get really fed up with all this religious stuff being shuvved down our throat.

the child in question goes to a catholic school Arthur ,it is part of their curriculum to visit other places of worship ,hence it being compulsory ,the mother should know this when she enrolled her child ,imo it's just another case of "selective religion" as i call it

rogerdraig · 13-05-2010, 22:36

mother over reacted school over reacted

13-05-2010, 23:23

I think an important lesson was missed here - the etiquette for visiting different places of worship varies - including removing footwear in a Hindu temple, males wearing a head covering in a synagogue, etc

- females wearing a scarf in a mosque is just another such example of being polite when visiting, it doesn't constitute 'dressing like a Muslim' , it is just a simple gesture to show respect to the hosts during the visit.

How unfortunate that good manners were, apparently, subverted by other agendas in this particular case - and shame that the educational opportunity was ultimately subsumed by prejudice ...

Arthurgray50@blu · 13-05-2010, 23:40

What l believe in, is that NO one should be forced to do something, they don't want to do, l have beliefs, but l would not force that one anyone else, I am Cof E and my wife and family are catholic, but if l went to my wifes church, l would not be forced to go into that church, therefore l belive the teacher involved in the problem with this child, should go and have his head tested, for common sense.