Forum Articles
  Welcome back Join CF
You are here You are here: Home | Forum | Do Muslim kids visit churches as part of their education?

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most of the discussions, articles and other free features. By joining our Virgin Media community you will have full access to all discussions, be able to view and post threads, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own images/photos, and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please join our community today.


Welcome to Cable Forum
Go Back   Cable Forum > General Discussion > Current Affairs
Register FAQ Community Calendar

Do Muslim kids visit churches as part of their education?
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 13-05-2010, 14:28   #1
Gary L
cf.mega poster
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 16,324
Gary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny star
Gary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny star
Do Muslim kids visit churches as part of their education?

I was reading a story about a girls mother refused her daughter to wear a scarf at the schools visit to a mosque. claiming "she did not want her daughter to 'dress as a Muslim'"

in one of the comments someone asked about it happening the other way around.
Gary L is offline   Reply With Quote
Advertisement
Old 13-05-2010, 14:31   #2
punky
Inactive
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Age: 44
Posts: 14,750
punky has a golden aurapunky has a golden aura
punky has a golden aurapunky has a golden aurapunky has a golden aurapunky has a golden aurapunky has a golden aurapunky has a golden aurapunky has a golden aurapunky has a golden aurapunky has a golden aurapunky has a golden aurapunky has a golden aurapunky has a golden aurapunky has a golden aurapunky has a golden aurapunky has a golden aura
Re: Do Muslim kids visit churches as part of their education?

If it is compulsory, then why the permission slip?
punky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-05-2010, 14:41   #3
Gary L
cf.mega poster
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 16,324
Gary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny star
Gary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny star
Re: Do Muslim kids visit churches as part of their education?

Quote:
Originally Posted by punky View Post
If it is compulsory, then why the permission slip?
Good point.
I was watching a prison documentary thing the other day and a prisoner who topped himself had little notes he wrote. the one said something about 'visit church'

the prison officer woman commented something about 'he would have to do that anyway'

is it compulsory to attend church in prison?
Gary L is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-05-2010, 14:42   #4
Hugh
laeva recumbens anguis
Cable Forum Team
 
Hugh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Age: 69
Services: Premiere Collection
Posts: 43,862
Hugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden aura
Hugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden aura
Re: Do Muslim kids visit churches as part of their education?

Strange - when I used to attend Catholic Church in Glasgow, it was expected that females covered their heads with a hat or a scarf.

What's the difference?
__________________
Thank you for calling the Abyss.
If you have called to scream, please press 1 to be transferred to the Void, or press 2 to begin your stare.

If my post is in bold and this colour, it's a Moderator Request.
Hugh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-05-2010, 14:45   #5
Maggy
The Invisible Woman
Cable Forum Team
 
Maggy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: between Portsmouth and Southampton.
Age: 73
Services: VM XL TV,50 MB VM BB,VM landline, Tivo
Posts: 40,360
Maggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden aura
Maggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden aura
Re: Do Muslim kids visit churches as part of their education?

__________________
Hell is empty and all the devils are here. Shakespeare..
Maggy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-05-2010, 14:55   #6
Saaf_laandon_mo
Inactive
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 4,291
Saaf_laandon_mo has a nice shiny starSaaf_laandon_mo has a nice shiny starSaaf_laandon_mo has a nice shiny star
Saaf_laandon_mo has a nice shiny starSaaf_laandon_mo has a nice shiny starSaaf_laandon_mo has a nice shiny starSaaf_laandon_mo has a nice shiny starSaaf_laandon_mo has a nice shiny starSaaf_laandon_mo has a nice shiny starSaaf_laandon_mo has a nice shiny starSaaf_laandon_mo has a nice shiny starSaaf_laandon_mo has a nice shiny starSaaf_laandon_mo has a nice shiny star
Re: Do Muslim kids visit churches as part of their education?

Quote:
Originally Posted by foreverwar View Post
Strange - when I used to attend Catholic Church in Glasgow, it was expected that females covered their heads with a hat or a scarf.

What's the difference?
I also recall seing the Queen and Princess Di put on a head covering when going to a mosque. Its called being repectful. Tourists all over the world do the same when entering a mosque.

As for 'dressing like a muslim' comment it goes to show how stupid some people are to they are going to think putting on a head scarf is dressing like a muslim.

As for happening the other way round - I am assuming the question is would a muslim girl who wears a head scarve remove it if she went to a church? I didnt know that removing a head covering is a pre-requisite of church attendance, or a Christian requirement. Can someone correct me if I am wrong?
Saaf_laandon_mo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-05-2010, 14:57   #7
Xaccers
Inactive
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Milling around Milton Keynes
Age: 48
Posts: 12,969
Xaccers has a pair of shiny starsXaccers has a pair of shiny starsXaccers has a pair of shiny starsXaccers has a pair of shiny stars
Xaccers has a pair of shiny starsXaccers has a pair of shiny starsXaccers has a pair of shiny starsXaccers has a pair of shiny starsXaccers has a pair of shiny starsXaccers has a pair of shiny starsXaccers has a pair of shiny starsXaccers has a pair of shiny starsXaccers has a pair of shiny starsXaccers has a pair of shiny starsXaccers has a pair of shiny starsXaccers has a pair of shiny stars
Re: Do Muslim kids visit churches as part of their education?

The schools response was ott, no teachers present to look after the kids? What? Was this an entire school outing? Could they not participate in other classes in other years?
Why not agree that if the parents want their children to miss out on the oppertunity, then they can be given home/course work to be completed by the next day and are the responsibility of the petty parents.

As for your other question Gary, yes, Muslim children do visit churches and synagogues as part of their education.
Xaccers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-05-2010, 14:58   #8
Gary L
cf.mega poster
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 16,324
Gary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny star
Gary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny star
Re: Do Muslim kids visit churches as part of their education?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo View Post
As for happening the other way round - I am assuming the question is would a muslim girl who wears a head scarve remove it if she went to a church?
It wasn't about the scarf thing the other way around. it was "Why aren't muslim school children taken round Catholic Churches or Christian Churches as part of their education?"
Gary L is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-05-2010, 15:04   #9
Nugget
Inactive
 
Nugget's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Punmeister Towers
Age: 50
Services: Will provide gags for cash
Posts: 9,211
Nugget is seeing silvered starsNugget is seeing silvered starsNugget is seeing silvered starsNugget is seeing silvered starsNugget is seeing silvered starsNugget is seeing silvered starsNugget is seeing silvered stars
Nugget is seeing silvered starsNugget is seeing silvered starsNugget is seeing silvered starsNugget is seeing silvered starsNugget is seeing silvered stars
Re: Do Muslim kids visit churches as part of their education?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary L View Post
It wasn't about the scarf thing the other way around. it was "Why aren't muslim school children taken round Catholic Churches or Christian Churches as part of their education?"
All of the non-Christian kids (not just Muslims) were taken around churches when I was at school - I think the curriculum had it down as 'equal opportunities boredom'
Nugget is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-05-2010, 15:06   #10
NoKnowledge
Inactive
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 963
NoKnowledge has a reputation beyond reputeNoKnowledge has a reputation beyond reputeNoKnowledge has a reputation beyond reputeNoKnowledge has a reputation beyond reputeNoKnowledge has a reputation beyond reputeNoKnowledge has a reputation beyond reputeNoKnowledge has a reputation beyond reputeNoKnowledge has a reputation beyond reputeNoKnowledge has a reputation beyond reputeNoKnowledge has a reputation beyond reputeNoKnowledge has a reputation beyond reputeNoKnowledge has a reputation beyond reputeNoKnowledge has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Do Muslim kids visit churches as part of their education?

Quote:
Do Muslim kids visit churches as part of their education?
I did and I had muslims, christians, indians and all kinds in our class.

We visited a mosque, churches, a synagogue and temples of all kinds. I cannot remmeber if it required a permission slip though.
NoKnowledge is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-05-2010, 15:07   #11
Maggy
The Invisible Woman
Cable Forum Team
 
Maggy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: between Portsmouth and Southampton.
Age: 73
Services: VM XL TV,50 MB VM BB,VM landline, Tivo
Posts: 40,360
Maggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden aura
Maggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden aura
Re: Do Muslim kids visit churches as part of their education?

Quote:
Originally Posted by NoKnowledge View Post
I did and I had muslims, christians, indians and all kinds in our class.

We visited a mosque, churches, a synagogue and temples of all kinds. I cannot remmeber if it required a permission slip though.
ALL school trips require parental permission.
__________________
Hell is empty and all the devils are here. Shakespeare..
Maggy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-05-2010, 15:08   #12
nomadking
cf.mega poster
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Northampton
Services: Virgin Media TV&BB 350Mb, V6 STB
Posts: 8,175
nomadking has a bronze arraynomadking has a bronze arraynomadking has a bronze array
nomadking has a bronze arraynomadking has a bronze arraynomadking has a bronze arraynomadking has a bronze arraynomadking has a bronze arraynomadking has a bronze arraynomadking has a bronze arraynomadking has a bronze array
Re: Do Muslim kids visit churches as part of their education?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xaccers View Post
The schools response was ott, no teachers present to look after the kids? What? Was this an entire school outing? Could they not participate in other classes in other years?
Why not agree that if the parents want their children to miss out on the oppertunity, then they can be given home/course work to be completed by the next day and are the responsibility of the petty parents.

As for your other question Gary, yes, Muslim children do visit churches and synagogues as part of their education.
But are they required to do so, and to wear such things as crosses or simply make the sign of the cross in a catholic church?
nomadking is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-05-2010, 15:08   #13
Gary L
cf.mega poster
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 16,324
Gary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny star
Gary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny starGary L has a nice shiny star
Re: Do Muslim kids visit churches as part of their education?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xaccers View Post
As for your other question Gary, yes, Muslim children do visit churches and synagogues as part of their education.
I found this.
When a Muslim enters a church he/she must recite the SHAHADA
'ASHHADU AL- LA ILAHA IL-LAL-LAHU
WA ASHHADU AN-NA MUHAMMADAN
ABDUHU WARASULUH'

Once it is said, a Muslim is free to enter the church.


Do the kids have to do this?
Gary L is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-05-2010, 15:10   #14
Saaf_laandon_mo
Inactive
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 4,291
Saaf_laandon_mo has a nice shiny starSaaf_laandon_mo has a nice shiny starSaaf_laandon_mo has a nice shiny star
Saaf_laandon_mo has a nice shiny starSaaf_laandon_mo has a nice shiny starSaaf_laandon_mo has a nice shiny starSaaf_laandon_mo has a nice shiny starSaaf_laandon_mo has a nice shiny starSaaf_laandon_mo has a nice shiny starSaaf_laandon_mo has a nice shiny starSaaf_laandon_mo has a nice shiny starSaaf_laandon_mo has a nice shiny starSaaf_laandon_mo has a nice shiny star
Re: Do Muslim kids visit churches as part of their education?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary L View Post
It wasn't about the scarf thing the other way around. it was "Why aren't muslim school children taken round Catholic Churches or Christian Churches as part of their education?"
My daughter goes to an Islamic faith school. They follow the RE sylabus that is practised in all schools in the borough. If this entails going to different places of worship to have a look, then yes they will go. She hasn't has yet (she is only 5) but I am aware that older students have visited non-Islamic places of worship.
Saaf_laandon_mo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-05-2010, 15:10   #15
Nugget
Inactive
 
Nugget's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Punmeister Towers
Age: 50
Services: Will provide gags for cash
Posts: 9,211
Nugget is seeing silvered starsNugget is seeing silvered starsNugget is seeing silvered starsNugget is seeing silvered starsNugget is seeing silvered starsNugget is seeing silvered starsNugget is seeing silvered stars
Nugget is seeing silvered starsNugget is seeing silvered starsNugget is seeing silvered starsNugget is seeing silvered starsNugget is seeing silvered stars
Re: Do Muslim kids visit churches as part of their education?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary L View Post
I found this.
When a Muslim enters a church he/she must recite the SHAHADA
'ASHHADU AL- LA ILAHA IL-LAL-LAHU
WA ASHHADU AN-NA MUHAMMADAN
ABDUHU WARASULUH'

Once it is said, a Muslim is free to enter the church.


Do the kids have to do this?
Well, the non-Muslim kids wouldn't have to
Nugget is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 18:15.


Server: osmium.zmnt.uk
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
All Posts and Content are © Cable Forum