2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll

[danielf]

Sometimes a picture really tells a thousand words...

[Julian]

Originally Posted by Flyboy

It is extremely bad form to manipulate someone post on a quote

Oh dear, sense of humour gone since your boyfriend's party got crushed at the polls?

Had a chat with my daughter this morning and found out that her teachers at college were spreading all sorts of scare stories about the torys telling all the students that the torys as soon as they got in were going to take away ema and stop all free bus travel for school kids in the whole country. This has made me very very angry as surely there are rules against teachers\tutors politicising their students during class time when they should be teaching them the subject they are paid too.

There seems to have been a lot of lying scare stories and like saab i am wondering how many people fell for it hook line and sinker without bothering to check any facts. Seems to me this election has not been a great episode for our country apart from the completely underhanded way lies have been spread the polling station situation also stinks to high hell. Only plus point is that i don't think any coalition is going to last long so we will all get the chance to vote again soon.

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Had a chat with my daughter this morning and found out that her teachers at college were spreading all sorts of scare stories about the torys telling all the students that the torys as soon as they got in were going to take away ema and stop all free bus travel for school kids in the whole country. This has made me very very angry as surely there are rules against teachers\tutors politicising their students during class time when they should be teaching them the subject they are paid too.

There seems to have been a lot of lying scare stories and like saab i am wondering how many people fell for it hook line and sinker without bothering to check any facts. Seems to me this election has not been a great episode for our country apart from the completely underhanded way lies have been spread the polling station situation also stinks to high hell. Only plus point is that i don't think any coalition is going to last long so we will all get the chance to vote again soon.

i've always understood that teachers cannot voice their own personnal political views in classtime ,they can only teach facts about politics ,and of course they must be correct ,which the ones you mention ,to my knowledge are not

Thats how i have always understood it as well time to make a formal complaint methinks.

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Had a chat with my daughter this morning and found out that her teachers at college were spreading all sorts of scare stories about the torys telling all the students that the torys as soon as they got in were going to take away ema and stop all free bus travel for school kids in the whole country. This has made me very very angry as surely there are rules against teachers\tutors politicising their students during class time when they should be teaching them the subject they are paid too.

There seems to have been a lot of lying scare stories and like saab i am wondering how many people fell for it hook line and sinker without bothering to check any facts. Seems to me this election has not been a great episode for our country apart from the completely underhanded way lies have been spread the polling station situation also stinks to high hell. Only plus point is that i don't think any coalition is going to last long so we will all get the chance to vote again soon.

Make a complaint to the college.That is completely unprofessional behaviour and cheapens my profession.

[Horace]

Originally Posted by danielf

Sometimes a really tells a thousand words...

Good find .

[punky]

There are protests out outside Nick Clegg's offices. WTF is that about?

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They are young, unwashed students so they are definitely Lib Dem supporters.

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by punky

There are protests out outside Nick Clegg's offices. WTF is that about?

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They are young, unwashed students so they are definitely Lib Dem supporters.

Activists. If they and the far right of the Tory party don't calm down and get real we could end up with another general election fairly soon, or worse still a coalition built by Labour on bare faced bribery, electoral reform to the Lib Dems and financial bribery to SNP/PC.

Originally Posted by Julian

Oh dear, sense of humour gone since your boyfriend's party got crushed at the polls?

Exactly who was crused at the polls! gordon brown survived two attemps at least to oust him as leader ,the 20p tax fiasco the calling of a lifelong labour supporter a "bigot"" the lack of regulation of the banks ect ect

I am a party member(not a brown supporter though) who was out working on the day,(not sitting behind a keyboard) considering all of the above we certainly did not get "crushed"

What does it say for dave that even with all the above he could not get enough of a majority to govern on his own with a wide open goal.

[punky]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

we could end up with another general election fairly soon

I hope so. I'm really worried about our political situation.

Ever since the 6th of May the most powerful man in Britain has been Nick Clegg - the person who came third. Both the winner and 1st placed loser are having to court him to get things moving. By "court him" I mean he gets whatever he wants just so we can get a government in place.

Its looking like Cameron + Clegg but then there's nothing to stop Labour and Clegg to join up. Then the winner of the election doesn't end up in the government, the two losers do.

And lets say that Cameron and Clegg do form a coalition. Everything's fine at first but what happens when the disagreements start? Cameron, I presume will be PM but Clegg can threaten to end the coalition if he isn't getting what he wants. The situation at the time could mean that the Tories couldn't get an outright majority again or worse - Labour could have majority support. So Cameron would be forced to do whatever Clegg wants to keep their party in 'power' (if you can call it that) or Clegg would put Cameron out of business whenever he wants. So the 3rd placed party basically runs the country for the next 5 years.

And all the while, its the electorate that end up getting screwed here.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Surely deferred success? It is new liebour after all.

Yes, their vote achieved negative growth...

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Originally Posted by richard1960

What does it say for dave that even with all the above he could not get enough of a majority to govern on his own with a wide open goal.

Perhaps one of the things it also says something about the disproportionate power of the Scottish vote because in England Brown took much more of a hammering.

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by richard1960

What does it say for dave that even with all the above he could not get enough of a majority to govern on his own with a wide open goal.

It says the Dark Lord's cynical disinformation worked looking at this thread. The lies on tax credits and other things were quite effective.

What does it say about the past 13 years under Labour that the only viable way to fight a campaign was with half-truths and outright lies?

You do realise that if Labour had achieved the share of the vote to Tories had they would have had a quite significant majority?

What does it say about Labour that the only thing that prevented the Tory majority was that the present election system is biased towards Labour?

Disappointing from the Conservative point of view, however I'm hoping that LibCon can get it together and ensure that Labour don't get to trash the economy ever again. Last two times they've been in power they've done a sterling job of doing just that.

All well and good wittering on about public services, the bit that Labour tend to forget is that these have to be paid for at some point and the more people government are employing the lower the tax revenues from private sector, but hey minor issue.

Originally Posted by Osem

Yes, their vote achieved negative growth...

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Perhaps one of the things it also says something about the disproportionate power of the Scottish vote because in England Brown took much more of a hammering.

The above is a fair enough point to make but in the council elections in london Labour were ahead of the national trend with seats being gained.

The scottish vote is different and tricky they have a devolved parliament but we live in a united kingdom something i have my doubts about scottish mps voting on issues in westminster is i think bad for democracy but i understand why it was done as there was a head of steam for full independance to see off.

Perhaps the tories need to appeal more to people in scotland just like blair did for many "middle england " voters in the south east of england

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by richard1960

The above is a fair enough point to make but in the council elections in london Labour were ahead of the national trend with seats being gained.

Immigrant vote hitting the spot.

Originally Posted by richard1960

Perhaps the tories need to appeal more to people in scotland just like blair did for many "middle england " voters in the south east of england

Not going to happen, all too many Scots are still obsessed with Thatcher and consider Labour a cash cow, especially given the strong Scottish influence in the Labour party.