The 2010 General Election Thread: Week 4

[Tezcatlipoca]

Originally Posted by Tuftus

I like Clegg, he has some good ideas, don't like the idea of losing our nuclear deterrant though.

Well, luckily for you, the Lib Dems are not proposing that we lose our nuclear deterrent

They say:

http://network.libdems.org.uk/manife...festo_2010.pdf

Originally Posted by Lib Dem Manifesto

Saying no to the like-for-like replacement of the Trident nuclear
weapons system, which could cost £100 billion. We will hold a full
defence review to establish the best alternative for Britain’s future
security.

No expensive like-for-like replacement of Trident does not equal no nuclear deterrent whatsoever. They are not proposing unilateral disarmament.

They think that instead of committing now to a hugely expensive like-for-like replacement of Trident, we should instead extend the lifespan of the current system, while holding a proper defence review to look at (hopefully) cheaper & more appropriate alternatives.

Links I posted in the previous thread regarding the views of some Generals on Trident:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle7103318.ece

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...cle7103196.ece

Originally Posted by Product 13

This made me laugh though.

Classic television

---------- Post added at 01:17 ---------- Previous post was at 01:14 ----------

Guardian Comment is Free - TV debate: a cross between Songs of Praise and Over the Rainbow

Originally Posted by Charlie Brooker at The Guardian

TV debate: a cross between Songs of Praise and Over the Rainbow

If the leadership debates were supermarkets – which they're not – ITV's would be Tesco, Sky's would be Morrisons, and the BBC's offering would be Waitrose. The ITV debate felt like a 1990s gameshow whose rules required Alastair Stewart to bellow "Mr Clegg!", "Mr Brown!" or "Mr Cameron!" every thirty seconds; the Sky studio was a poky black cave cluttered with discarded British Airways tail fins and dwarfed by an immense Sky logo. With its mix of cavernous space and high-tech backdrops, the BBC debate resembled a cross between Songs of Praise and current Saturday night talent-show splurge Over the Rainbow: I half expected the loser to hand his shoes to Dimbleby at the end before jetting off into the sky on a rocket-powered podium.

(snip)

[punky]

Ladies and Gentlemen... May I introduce...

LOLCleggz!

http://www.popbitch.com/home/2010/04...-haz-lib-dems/

LOL Awesome. I caught a glimpse of them in the Metro someone was reading on the tube.

Last nights was the best of the three and finally showed some clear daylight between them i thought cameron was a little stronger then the rest and am getting truly fed up of nick clegg using the "old partys" line. I am pretty sure who i am going to vote for now and unless something major happens cannot see it changing anytime soon. I cannot support the liberals apart from the daft amnesty for ten year illegals their attitude of taxing the rich is just stupid and is going to push many of them out of the country taking the money and jobs with them.

I know it might shock some but quite a lot of wealthy people in this country pay their full tax and pay a considerable amount and the idea that more is coming is not a happy one for them and not one they have to tolerate. Gordon does a lot of talking but the trouble he has is that if he was so passioante about all the things he claims to be why the hell hasn't he done more in the time he has had and he cannot get away from that and he will not address it making it hard to take him seriously on anything he says right now.

I am happy with the tough talk from the conservatives on welfare reform and i believe they will do it and i have no problem with it even though i am on benefit. Had the liberal condidate at my door this morning and i asked him about this amnesty and how they would be able to verify someone had been an illegal for ten years shockingly he couldn't answer and tried to quickly move onto another subject and when i pushed the issue said "well i have many doors to knock on today so i am sorry i have to go remember we are the party for real change".

Not exactly reasuring and it's a valid question if they are illegal then by that definition we have no way of knowing anything about them so no it's a daft policy and i see it going the same way as spain who are on what their six or seventh amnesty now. No they are not saying right now they will get rid of our nuclear detterent but i am still not convinced they will not get rid of it if they got any real power. Thats the problem with the liberals they are saying some things all of us like but can we really trust them to do it and i just don't believe them to do all the things they say they will.

I am not completely convinced by the conservatives but right now of the three i am prepared to give them the chance more then the other two. We all know they are not telling us the whole truth all of them know they will have to make cuts to services and they know telling us before the election is a gauranteed vote loser.

[Angua]

At least the Lib Dems have actually looked at the "existing" illegal immigrants and suggested a solution. The other two had no ideas except to somehow curb future immigrants, 80% of whom cannot be stopped as they are from the EEC. Most people seem to have real issues with the ones we already have. Seemingly those in the black market & crime cartels who pay no tax and create work for the police. Who, regardless of when they get caught get away with staying here because they have a child.

[Sirius]

What’s Brass and won’t work next week?






Gordon Browns front door Key!!!!!

[speedfreak]

Seeing Tony Blair recently do an interview and then jokingly make sure he handed back his microphone to the TV crew made me laugh. Interesting poll results on here, I guess this forum is full of bigots

[alferret]

Originally Posted by Sirius

What’s Brass and won’t work next week?






Gordon Browns front door Key!!!!!

LOL

[slug]

Originally Posted by Sirius

What’s Brass and won’t work next week?
Gordon Browns front door Key!!!!!

/pedant on

Number 10 doesnt have a front door key.

/pedant off

[Ramrod]

Nick Clegg has just given us the best possible reason not to vote for him

Cleggie is a Eurocrat’s Eurocrat: a supporter of the European Constitution, the euro, an EU seat at the United Nations and the rest of the apparatus of Euro-corporatism.....In an interview with a German newspaper this week, he described British Euro-sceptics as “nasty� and “insular�.......In last night’s leaders debate, though, he whistled a different tune. When David Cameron pointed out that the Lib Dem manifesto contains a commitment in principle to join the euro, he rolled his eyes in theatrical astonishment. Join the euro? Moi? How desperate of the Tories even to suggest such a thing!

[Angua]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Nick Clegg has just given us the best possible reason not to vote for him

Daniel Hannan is rabidly anti Europe. When I was a local councillor I got regular illiterate e-mail rants from him (had to block them in the end). I suspect it is only because he wants to continue to have Tory party backing that he hasn't joined UKIP.

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by slug

/pedant on

Number 10 doesnt have a front door key.

/pedant off

Then what's that yale key shaped circle to the left of the letterbox?

[LondonRoad]

That's used by the PM to p!ss on us.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

After watching last night farce with Cameron, making all these promises, which he won't keep, he is doing exactly what Thatcher promised, l would urge everyone to vote either Clegg or Brown.

[danielf]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Nick Clegg has just given us the best possible reason not to vote for him

In an interview with a German newspaper this week, he described British Euro-sceptics as “nasty” and “insular”.

You have to admit. Clegg's got a point...