The 2010 General Election Thread: Week 3

[frogstamper]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

Many MPs ignore the whips.

(uh-oh! Where's Mr LoveMonkey?)

Sadly they are far to few on all sides, I think voting reform is a certainty after this election as whoever becomes the largest party they are currently very unlikely to get more than 35% of the vote, hardly a ringing endorsement for the unpopular cuts to come, if ever a party needed a proper mandate to push through these cuts its now.
At present the next government will be decided by about a 100 key marginals, mainly in the Midlands, meaning the vast majority of us have an almost pointless vote.
If your a Labour voter in the south or a Tory voter in the north apart from a few key seats your vote is meaningless, surely a system whereby the overall votes a party achieves is preferable to the current system?
If a party can only get 35% of the vote when only 60% of the eligible public vote our democracy is in poor shape indeed.

[dilli-theclaw]

I got a BNP leaflet this morning, just as well I've already voted or it may have swayed me.... Not.

[Flyboy]

Originally Posted by Product 13

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz0mG89sfJk

And...



http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...icks-leaflets-

sparking accusations of political opportunism

That's a bit rich, coming from the Daily Heil.

Mandelson and Balls on Peppa Pig-Gate.....

Mandelscum blames BBC interference. Whoodathunkit.

[Stuart]

In other words, Labour attempt to cash in on the popularity of a children's character, get caught, get asked to stop and blame someone else?

[Angua]

Originally Posted by frogstamper

Sadly they are far to few on all sides, I think voting reform is a certainty after this election as whoever becomes the largest party they are currently very unlikely to get more than 35% of the vote, hardly a ringing endorsement for the unpopular cuts to come, if ever a party needed a proper mandate to push through these cuts its now.
At present the next government will be decided by about a 100 key marginals, mainly in the Midlands, meaning the vast majority of us have an almost pointless vote.
If your a Labour voter in the south or a Tory voter in the north apart from a few key seats your vote is meaningless, surely a system whereby the overall votes a party achieves is preferable to the current system?
If a party can only get 35% of the vote when only 60% of the eligible public vote our democracy is in poor shape indeed.

Exactly. Yet whoever wins a majority of seats will claim they have a "mandate" to govern.

Best line of the election so far at today's Sky / Labour Press Conference (about 24 seconds in) - Baron Mandelson says "Adam, you're not standing for election"; assorted journalists shout back "Neither are you!".

(which is then followed by a couple of minutes of BM talking, but not answering Adam Bolton's questions.....)

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Chris

Mandelscum blames BBC interference. Whoodathunkit.

You should know by now that the BBC are only allowed to interfere or show bias when it benefits Labour, and indeed do.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Stuart C

In other words, Labour attempt to cash in on the popularity of a children's character, get caught, get asked to stop and blame someone else?

Par for the course with Brown and his cronies. Claim all the credit when things go well and deny any responsibility when they go pear shaped....

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

You should know by now that the BBC are only allowed to interfere or show bias when it benefits Labour, and indeed do.

I don't know. Nick Robinson gave a hard time to them at their press conference, it was also he who provoked an angry reaction during the last election by asking 'where are the minorities' then Blair was giving a speech in front of an assembled backing of Labour supporters who Robinson, incorrectly, thought were entirely white.

In the Thick of It is obviously a mockery of Labour's government and Alistair Campbell.

Like I said about Sky News, it's sometimes too easy to perceive bias in the press. More often than not it's because they have reported on a event without he desired spin/interpretation you had.

[Neil22]

This sums him up just nice.


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[Jimmy-J]

Basildon boxer to fight election as 'None Of The Above'

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Neil22

This sums him up just nice.

That's the level of debate I expected after your previous copy/pastes of Labour propaganda were taken apart.

In other news anyone know anything about the author of this?

---------- Post added at 17:15 ---------- Previous post was at 17:15 ----------

Originally Posted by Damien

I don't know. Nick Robinson gave a hard time to them at their press conference, it was also he who provoked an angry reaction during the last election by asking 'where are the minorities' then Blair was giving a speech in front of an assembled backing of Labour supporters who Robinson, incorrectly, thought were entirely white.

In the Thick of It is obviously a mockery of Labour's government and Alistair Campbell.

Like I said about Sky News, it's sometimes too easy to perceive bias in the press. More often than not it's because they have reported on a event without he desired spin/interpretation you had.

Hrmm I'm perhaps feeling uncharitable after his ridiculous last blog and watching far too many cases of Labour being given a gentler ride.

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

--------- Previous post was at 17:15 ----------

Hrmm I'm perhaps feeling uncharitable after his ridiculous last blog and watching far too many cases of Labour being given a gentler ride.

That last blog was fine too. He pointed out both that the nurses had just been told about pay raises/pension protection and that these promises were not outlined in their manifesto.

The main contention seems to be that he reported the fact the nurses gave Brown a standing ovation and it seemed geniune, as if reporting such incidents is in itself bias.

If you care to look a few blogs back there is this article attacking Brown's lack of numeric ability: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/nickrobin...t_to_save.html