Ban the burkha ?

[Marydoll]

[QUOTE=foreverwar;35007910]Things that are anti-social that aren't banned -
Many things are anti social but my definition at that point was merely one of interaction on social occasions even standing next to a stranger in a checkout queue and politely chatting. I live in an Asian area with many temples and mosques and continually chat and joke with women in burkhas but the full veil hides facial expressions. If it was essential I could understand but the purpose seems to be to stop the gaze of other males.
No I would not like to be part of a society that chops off the hands of thieves or stones adulterers. I do consider myself lucky to be born in this country. Maybe our our tolerance is just being tested.

---------- Post added at 13:00 ---------- Previous post was at 12:57 ----------

Originally Posted by Xaccers

The Taliban are in Iraq???

The Taliban home may be in Iraq but their beliefs stretch far and wide.

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Marydoll

The Taliban home may be in Iraq but their beliefs stretch far and wide.

I think you'll find that the Taliban home isn't in Iraq...

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

Gary, what in your opinion is "modern western culture"?

I don't know. tell me what it's supposed to be and I'll give you my opinion of that?

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Marydoll

The Taliban home may be in Iraq but their beliefs stretch far and wide.

You aren't from the States are you? That was one they probably tried for a while along with Al Qaeda and Saddam.

Just FYI the Taliban's home is the other one, Afghanistan. They are pretty much in Northern Afghanistan and Southern Pakistan.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Marydoll

Many things are anti social but my definition at that point was merely one of interaction on social occasions even standing next to a stranger in a checkout queue and politely chatting.

So again, you want something banned on the grounds of it being anti-social in your definition?

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Russ

So again, you want something banned on the grounds of it being anti-social in your definition?

I think the thinking may be that it's anti-social for someone to hide and cover their faces in this country.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Gary L

I think the thinking may be that it's anti-social for someone to hide and cover their faces in this country.

I still don't see the rationale behind banning something due to an opinion or perception.

Originally Posted by Gary L

I think the thinking may be that it's anti-social for someone to hide and cover their faces in this country.

Meta-thinking - excellent.

Is that your thinking?

[Mr Angry]

Originally Posted by Gary L

I don't know. tell me what it's supposed to be and I'll give you my opinion of that?

Exactly as I and others expected. Your suppositions are based on something that you, yourself, are incapable of forming an opinion on.

At least you have the decency to admit it.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Russ

I still don't see the rationale behind banning something due to an opinion or perception.

Smoking is thought to be anti-social by opinion and perception and that was banned.

what if someone were to always turn their back to you when you were talking to them. that would be anti-social?

---------- Post added at 13:50 ---------- Previous post was at 13:49 ----------

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

Exactly as I and others expected. Your suppositions are based on something that you, yourself, are incapable of forming an opinion on.

At least you have the decency to admit it.

What makes you think I should have an answer for you, and that the answer not forthcoming proves a point in your favour?

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Gary L

Smoking is thought to be anti-social by opinion and peception and that was banned.

You are seriously clutching at straws now. Smoking has never been banned, only the lighting up in public buildings and worplaces. And I think you'll find that was more to do with the scientifically proven health risks involved.

Originally Posted by Gary L

what if someone were to always turn their back to you when you were talking to them. that would be anti-social?

Yes, it would to me. Want that banned too?

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Russ

You are seriously clutching at straws now. Smoking has never been banned, only the lighting up in public buildings and worplaces. And I think you'll find that was more to do with the scientifically proven health risks involved.

You know I didn't mean it's been completely banned.
we are discussing a partial ban and some others are discussing a total ban. you are using the total ban side of the argument in reply to my view.

---------- Post added at 13:55 ---------- Previous post was at 13:53 ----------

Originally Posted by Russ

Yes, it would to me. Want that banned too?

I'm not fussed. I'd just walk away if someones culture was to turn their back on you.

[Mr Angry]

Originally Posted by Gary L

What makes you think I should have an answer for you, and that the answer not forthcoming proves a point in your favour?

Because I was under the impression given your attempts to appear rational (and the fact that you somewhat judiciously edited the post you copied from world passports) that you would have a factually based opinion or concept of what constuitutes "western culture".

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Gary L

we are discussing a partial ban and some others are discussing a total ban. you are using the total ban side of the argument in reply to my view.

What? By Russ telling you that the ban in public places was due to the known health issues caused by passive smoking?
Get real Gary.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

Because I was under the impression given your attempts to appear rational (and the fact that you somewhat judiciously edited the post you copied from world passports) that you would have a factually based opinion or concept of what constuitutes "western culture".

The post was copied by 'world passports' the original post was in uklegal.