20yr grudge attack on teacher

[cookie_365]

That's strange.

Usually when you read news stories about child abusers attacking 6 year olds, the comments pages are full of lurid descriptions about what people would do to the men responsible if they had been the victim.

Yet when one victim does exactly that, people get upset about it.

[Dai]

Is there actually any evidence available that confirms the situation at that school during the period in question?

So far we have one thug with a criminal history telling us what happened.

Originally Posted by cookie_365

That's strange.

Usually when you read news stories about child abusers attacking 6 year olds, the comments pages are full of lurid descriptions about what people would do to the men responsible if they had been the victim.

Yet when one victim does exactly that, people get upset about it.

not here matey

[speedfreak]

Originally Posted by cookie_365

That's strange.

Usually when you read news stories about child abusers attacking 6 year olds, the comments pages are full of lurid descriptions about what people would do to the men responsible if they had been the victim.

Yet when one victim does exactly that, people get upset about it.

couldnt agree more though the trouble here is (as with most stories) we dont know all the facts. For all we know the caning may have been what led to a life of crime or the guy is just a nutter. Either way if I was caned at 6 years old I would definitely seek revenge. I know not everyone will agree but it would stay with me for years.

Ive not forgotten being slapped very hard on the legs aged 5 by a teacher, a teacher who used to be Nigel Mansells nanny I believe. What a stinger and I was only playing about when I should have been listening. Strange how I remember that yet I cant remember what Ive done last week Things like that stay with you for life

[Spectato]

Originally Posted by zing

Maybe he was mistreated at home and maybe it was not just one incidence of caning at school.

He almost definitely had a violent upbringing/home-life.
The violence that he wrought on his teacher wasn't the result of being caned once.
It just wasn't.

Originally Posted by cookie_365

Usually when you read news stories about child abusers attacking 6 year olds

Child abuse?
He was/is a teacher.
It was state sanctioned punishment, which usually if not always required parental consent (did at my old school anyway).

What I can't believe is people implying that this guy deserved that level of beating, or indeed any beating.
You'd kind of hope that someone like Mr. Bullen might have just grown up and moved on.

[xpod]

Originally Posted by Spectato

He almost definitely had a violent upbringing/home-life.
The violence that he wrought on his teacher wasn't the result of being caned once.
It just wasn't.

Child abuse?
He was/is a teacher.
It was state sanctioned punishment, which usually if not always required parental consent (did at my old school anyway).

What I can't believe is people implying that this guy deserved that level of beating, or indeed any beating.
You'd kind of hope that someone like Mr. Bullen might have just grown up and moved on.

You know what they say about assumption eh.
Not everybody who is, or has been violent has had a "violent upbringing/home-life". A lot have for for sure but it`s by no means definite . Regardless of the story in question there are so many things that can turn even the most placid of people violent.

Still though, i had the belt in Primary School although never as young as six.
I think many mums & dads would have probably went and gave him a skelp there & then if they knew that had happened to their six year old.

[Hom3r]

I bleive that your home life moulds you.

My parents don't smoke, nor does my sister and I

My parents don't drink exessively, nor does my sister and I

My parents don't do illegal drugs, nor does my sister and I

My parents aren't violent, nor are my sister and I

I have friends who parents smoke, guess what they do

I have friends who parents drink to much, guess what etc etc.

[Russ]

A 20 year grudge? Some people seriously need to get a life.

[bopdude]

Originally Posted by Russ

A 20 year grudge? Some people seriously need to get a life.

Jones ( deputy head ) Keenan ( metalwork ) carried it around nearly 30 years, haven't and won't actively seek them out but if I ever see them........


Jones was a sadistic person of dubious parentage if you had to get caned by him it wasn't 'just' punishment, he enjoyed it, he used to make you hold the back of the chair in front of you ass up, and give you 'the talk' whilst you were waiting for the whack, he then missed deliberately on as many times as he deemed fit to suit his twisted pleasure before it landed, and it was no holds barred.

Keenan was of a similar stamp, liked his punishment to be felt, he once broke a 10mm dowel off my ass and he grinned afterwards.

yep, these 2 I would certainly hope to bump into before they peg it of natural causes.

[xpod]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

I bleive that your home life moulds you.

My parents don't smoke, nor does my sister and I

My parents don't drink exessively, nor does my sister and I

My parents don't do illegal drugs, nor does my sister and I

My parents aren't violent, nor are my sister and I

I have friends who parents smoke, guess what they do

I have friends who parents drink to much, guess what etc etc.

Great personal examples for sure but it still does not mean that those from bad upbringings automatically turn bad and it certainly doesn`t mean those from good upbringings automatically stay good.....far from it in fact.

[budwieser]

Originally Posted by Russ

A 20 year grudge? Some people seriously need to get a life.

I find it hard to believe that someone could hold a grudge for being caned 20 years ago.
If he was caned at age six, there should be an investigation.
Caning and slippering were not brought in until secondary school if i remember, and then only if you deserved them. How many times was the guy expelled?
I was in secondary school from 1972 until 1977 and the cane etc was being phased out and more parents were coming into school and slapping the teachers. I think Mr Bullen was an attack waiting to happen to somebody, his ex headmaster just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

[Spectato]

Originally Posted by xpod

You know what they say about assumption eh.

That it's one of the things that made us an incredibly successful species?

Not everybody who is, or has been violent has had a "violent upbringing/home-life". A lot have for for sure but it`s by no means definite . Regardless of the story in question there are so many things that can turn even the most placid of people violent.

Such is the whimsical nature of the news, we'll probably never know, though it doesn't say much for the human psyche if a single event like that in itself could turn someone into a malevolent sociopath.
I guess the rest of us, normal peace-loving folk, all had incredibly easy, idyllic childhoods without any kind of trauma, punishment, fight or violent event?

[xpod]

Originally Posted by Spectato

That it's one of the things that made us an incredibly successful species?

Nope. Assumption is the mother of all F` up`s.

Such is the whimsical nature of the news, we'll probably never know, though it doesn't say much for the human psyche if a single event like that in itself could turn someone into a malevolent sociopath.

Indeed.

I guess the rest of us, normal peace-loving folk, all had incredibly easy, idyllic childhoods without any kind of trauma, punishment, fight or violent event?

I wasn`t defending the guy in question i was merely saying that it`s not always the case that people who have had difficult upbringings automatically take the same destructive paths in life and it`s certainly not always the case that those who have had good upbringings automatically become good upstanding members of the community.

From the local paper

Outside court, Mr Heakin denied Bullen’s unsubstantiated claims that he had inflicted corporal punishment on him as a child.

[Flyboy]

Well he is hardly likely to say, "oh well, of course I beat a six year old child with a stick."