20yr grudge attack on teacher

this must be very worrying for some teachers

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A headmaster was left with horrific injuries after he was attacked by a former pupil he had caned 20 years ago.



Kieran Heakin had to have four metal plates put into his skull and is now permanently deaf in one ear and has no sense of smell or taste following the attack in an Indian restaurant.

Wow talk about over reaction.

However I cannot remember ever hearing or knowing of any Primary school that used the cane especially in the 90s.

Mind my first head teacher was a progressive.She would not allow corporal punishment in her school(secondary) during the 70s.So I've never at any time had corporal punishment used on any student I taught.

[Dai]

And the moron that did this is sentenced to "3 years" - and we all know what that really means.

Another one that should be dropped off the ferry mid-channel..

Ive got grudges dating back beyond 25 years that sometimes trouble me . I would not go looking for revenge but if the opportunity arose and I would not be the instigator I think I would welcome it

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Originally Posted by DaiNasty

And the moron that did this is sentenced to "3 years" - and we all know what that really means.

Another one that should be dropped off the ferry mid-channel..

if the teacher did do this a mere 20 years ago then I believe this type of punishement was already outlawed and he was guilty of assault originally

The guy would have only been 6 at the time... Part of me thinks the teacher deserved it as he must have been a bully

Originally Posted by Maggy J

Wow talk about over reaction.

However I cannot remember ever hearing or knowing of any Primary school that used the cane especially in the 90s.

Mind my first head teacher was a progressive.She would not allow corporal punishment in her school(secondary) during the 70s.So I've never at any time had corporal punishment used on any student I taught.

did strike me as odd that i thought caning was banned years before the 90's ,maybe a private school ?

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Originally Posted by zing

if the teacher did do this a mere 20 years ago then I believe this type of punishement was already outlawed and he was guilty of assault originally

The guy would have only been 6 at the time... Part of me thinks the teacher deserved it as he must have been a bully

it was a catholic school say no more


St John’s RC Primary, in Burnley

yeah so there is a possibility this teacher and others at the school totally screwed with this guys head making him the headcase he is today. Not all violent thugs are born psycho some are made that way by enviroment and mistreatment

Caning was banned for state schools in 1987 except for private schools which was then brought in in 1999(England,Wales) 2000(Scotland) 2003 (Northern Ireland)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_...United_Kingdom

Originally Posted by Maggy J

Caning was banned for state schools in 1987 except for private schools which was then brought in in 1999(England,Wales) 2000(Scotland) 2003 (Northern Ireland)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_...United_Kingdom

still ,caning a primary school pupil ,doesn't excuse the behaviour though

Originally Posted by Maggy J

Caning was banned for state schools in 1987 except for private schools which was then brought in in 1999(England,Wales) 2000(Scotland) 2003 (Northern Ireland)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_...United_Kingdom

still caning a 6 year old was never right imo. This obviously had a long reaching effect on this guy as he tore this guy a new one for it.

As I say I have grudges date back a lot longer due to how I was treated by people and how they ruined my childhood. Ok they aint teachers in the main but its still possibly a similar thing.

[Hom3r]

Well when I was in school I was bullied, but the school did SFA as the school said "It doesn't happen here".

One time, one of these thug decided to punch me in the back of the head, which caused me to yell, I got told off for making a noise. I walked out of the class after the teacher refused to believe me. another time they stole my bag, which I found walking home my gym shorts had been burnt, and I cannot print was scribbeded in my text books, again the school did SFA as there was no proof who did it.

If I was to take out my revenge now there would be about 6 teachers and 5 bullies sucking there food through a tube.

But when I left school I went fuff em and never looked back.

Many years later I joined Friend Reunited, when I was sent a PM my one of the bullies (not one of the nasty ones) who appologied for his actions.

Originally Posted by zing

still caning a 6 year old was never right imo. This obviously had a long reaching effect on this guy as he tore this guy a new one for it.

As I say I have grudges date back a lot longer due to how I was treated by people and how they ruined my childhood. Ok they aint teachers in the main but its still possibly a similar thing.

To be honest zing I was NEVER caned myself when at school but I think that was due entirely to my being exposed to rather more enlightened teachers plus I learned very quickly not to put my head above the parapet once I started at school.

I suspect the fact I LIKED school stood me in good stead too and I learned that studying hard got me a layer of protection from punishment.Clever,smart and quiet is what teachers want.

AS I say the cane has never been an option for me but I personally think the worst thing a teacher can do is ridicule or shame a child, a far worse thing than physical chastisement.

I do wonder at times though whether the lack of physical punishment is making our teenagers harder to control and manage and whether some poor behaviour would not be as prevalent as it is these days though I appreciate that it is probably a more complex than that.

Originally Posted by Hom3r

Well when I was in school I was bullied, but the school did SFA as the school said "It doesn't happen here".

One time, one of these thug decided to punch me in the back of the head, which caused me to yell, I got told off for making a noise. I walked out of the class after the teacher refused to believe me. another time they stole my bag, which I found walking home my gym shorts had been burnt, and I cannot print was scribbeded in my text books, again the school did SFA as there was no proof who did it.

If I was to take out my revenge now there would be about 6 teachers and 5 bullies sucking there food through a tube.

But when I left school I went fuff em and never looked back.

Many years later I joined Friend Reunited, when I was sent a PM my one of the bullies (not one of the nasty ones) who appologied for his actions.

the worst ones who bullied me tried to intimidate me at the 10 year reunion.Some guy told me they were going to get me. They then all left in a taxi leaving me thinking thats funny perhaps my large neck and massive biceps( at the time) put them off a bit lol lol

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Originally Posted by Maggy J

To be honest zing I was NEVER caned myself when at school but I think that was due entirely to my being exposed to rather more enlightened teachers plus I learned very quickly not to put my head above the parapet once I started at school.

I suspect the fact I LIKED school stood me in good stead too and I learned that studying hard got me a layer of protection from punishment.Clever,smart and quiet is what teachers want.

AS I say the cane has never been an option for me but I personally think the worst thing a teacher can do is ridicule or shame a child, a far worse thing than physical chastisement.

I do wonder at times though whether the lack of physical punishment is making our teenagers harder to control and manage and whether some poor behaviour would not be as prevalent as it is these days though I appreciate that it is probably a more complex than that.

I think a lack of any real hope for a lot of kids is what is making them harder to control. Lets face it this country does not offer the under privileged much and the education system is a farce in as such kids are passing exams but not really learning much ,gives them less chances.

[Hom3r]

Originally Posted by zing

the worst ones who bullied me tried to intimidate me at the 10 year reunion.Some guy told me they were going to get me. They then all left in a taxi leaving me thinking thats funny perhaps my large neck and massive biceps( at the time) put them off a bit lol lol

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I think a lack of any real hope for a lot of kids is what is making them harder to control. Lets face it this country does not offer the under privileged much and the education system is a farce in as such kids are passing exams but not really learning much ,gives them less chances.

LOL reminds me of a story I was told, but thats for another thread.

[Spectato]

Originally Posted by martyh

this must be very worrying for some teachers

You'll probably find that teachers (as the rest of us) are already pretty worried by the level of violence, inside and outside of their schools.

I don't think you can blame an incidence of caning for creating such a psycho as Mr Bullen clearly is.
Assuming it wasn't carried out for the teacher's own gratification, you have to ask why a 6 year old boy was up for caning in the first place (while I agree that no one that young should be).
Also that he's been expelled from multiple schools and "has a long criminal record".

Originally Posted by Spectato

You'll probably find that teachers (as the rest of us) are already pretty worried by the level of violence, inside and outside of their schools.

I don't think you can blame an incidence of caning for creating such a psycho as Mr Bullen clearly is.
Assuming it wasn't carried out for the teacher's own gratification, you have to ask why a 6 year old boy was up for caning in the first place (while I agree that no one that young should be).
Also that he's been expelled from multiple schools and "has a long criminal record".

we do not know what turned this guy. Maybe he was mistreated at home and maybe it was not just one incidence of caning at school. There are normally triggers that turn people nasty we are after all a sum of our experiences