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Peter_ · 16-04-2010, 18:16

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Originally Posted by Niles Crane

So is death justice for stupidity or ignorance then?

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Originally Posted by Flyboy

Since when has death been "justice" for theft?

No one else caused his death apart from his own greed and stupidity.

So why should I or anyone else feel any pity for an idiot who would try to steal from an electricity sub station.

He had no thoughts about the people who he will have caused problems for as all his mind was on was the profit he would make from the theft of the cable.

What you say if he had got away and then someone innocent walked past and they were electrocuted.

He 100% got what he deserved it was not justice but crass stupidity.

He did not even need to read to be able to know what these signs meant.

He took a chance and paid for it with his life, tough luck.

Flyboy · 16-04-2010, 18:24

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Originally Posted by Masque

No one else caused his death apart from his own greed and stupidity.

So why should I or anyone else feel any pity for an idiot who would try to steal from an electricity sub station.

He had no thoughts about the people who he will have caused problems for as all his mind was on was the profit he would make from the theft of the cable.

What you say if he had got away and then someone innocent walked past and they were electrocuted.

He 100% got what he deserved it was not justice but crass stupidity.

He did not even need to read to be able to know what these signs meant.

He took a chance and paid for it with his life, tough luck.

No one deserves this and this is what makes your attitude all the more disquieting and unsettleing.

Peter_ · 16-04-2010, 18:27

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Originally Posted by Flyboy

No one deserves this and this is what makes your attitude all the more disquieting and unsettleing.

If he had not tried to steal a live 30000 volt cable he would still be alive, that is crass stupidity and is deserved of the Darwin Award.

speedfreak · 16-04-2010, 19:03

This might not make me very popular however theres no point just posting in agreement with the majority all the time, but I agree 100% with flyboy on this. This is a human being here that has died, fair enough he was a thief but nobody knows the circumstances which led to him being one, might have just been a poor bloke hit by hard times trying to make some easy money, small mouths to feed? nobody knows. I love my car but if someone stole it and crashed and died I wouldnt think "justice had been done." Id actually feel sorry for the thief, maybe thats just me. No offence to anyone whatsoever but this is someones son/brother/father that everyone seems to be joking about

Sirius · 16-04-2010, 19:06

He broke into a sub station First dumb act

He decided to cut a 30.000kv cable Second dumb act

It was his fault and he has done the tax payer a favour because the numpty would have ended up in jail sooner or later, That then would cost us a lot of money in his upkeep. Self administered justice carried out if you ask me.

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Originally Posted by Masque

If he had not tried to steal a live 30000 volt cable he would still be alive, that is crass stupidity and is deserved of the Darwin Award.

Agreed

peanut · 16-04-2010, 19:19

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Originally Posted by speedfreak

This might not make me very popular however theres no point just posting in agreement with the majority all the time, but I agree 100% with flyboy on this. This is a human being here that has died, fair enough he was a thief but nobody knows the circumstances which led to him being one, might have just been a poor bloke hit by hard times trying to make some easy money, small mouths to feed? nobody knows. I love my car but if someone stole it and crashed and died I wouldnt think "justice had been done." Id actually feel sorry for the thief, maybe thats just me. No offence to anyone whatsoever but this is someones son/brother/father that everyone seems to be joking about

So blame society rather than themselves?

If I gave you knife and said 'if' you put it on your finger and saw at it, your finger will come off and cause a huge amount pain and if you do it I'll give you a quid. Then what if you decide to ignore the 'obvious' to see for yourself and because you want that quid. You start cutting at your finger then it comes off and you end up in great pain etc. Do you deserve to lose a finger and be in pain? Yes.

This person knew what he was doing and knew the risks, he was warned that it could kill him and it did. So there's no pity, it wasn't tragic, just plain stupidity, greed and disrespect for his own life, he played with fire and he got burnt (literally).

speedfreak · 16-04-2010, 19:22

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Originally Posted by peanut

You start cutting at your finger then it comes off and you end up in great pain etc. Do you deserve to lose a finger and be in pain? Yes.

would depend how desperate I was IMO

This person knew what he was doing and knew the risks

Obviously he didnt know what he was doing, anyway even if he knew the risks etc why does that make it ok to make jokes about someone being killed in this way?

Anyway I see your points, I just dont agree. At one point in my life I would have agreed but my opinion on things seem to be continually changing with age

Peter_ · 16-04-2010, 19:26

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Originally Posted by speedfreak

Anyway I see your points, I just dont agree

Did this guy actually think the signs were fake and so cut through a 30000 volt cable, bit of a hard way to learn he was wrong to say the least.

Rather him than an innocent bystander.

speedfreak · 16-04-2010, 19:29

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Originally Posted by Masque

Did this guy actually think the signs were fake and so cut through a 30000 volt cable, bit of a hard way to learn he was wrong to say the least.

Rather him than an innocent bystander.

Just so you know where I stand, yes I think it was a stupid thing to do but no, I dont agree with making jokes about it. Im not attacking anyone just thought Id post my opinion on it, would be a dull world and forum if we all had the same opinions

Peter_ · 16-04-2010, 19:32

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Originally Posted by speedfreak

Just so you know where I stand, yes I think it was a stupid thing to do but no, I dont agree with making jokes about it. Im not attacking anyone just thought Id post my opinion on it, would be a dull world and forum if we all had the same opinions

Quite right as well.

I am just amazed that anyone could have been so damn stupid to think that it was safe to cut that cable.

**Maggy** · 16-04-2010, 20:31

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Originally Posted by Flyboy

I find it disturbing that so many find so much delight in the death of another human being. Yes, he it appears he was attempting to steal something, but there is no way he deserved to die for it, or do you all think, because you believe he was a traveller he deserved to die anyway?

Gallows humour...

LondonRoad · 16-04-2010, 20:41

{may as well get these off my chest with apologies}
There was bound to be potential differences in this thread. It almost seems like a power struggle at times with both viewpoints being poles apart.

I donâ€™t have the capacity to induce further argument but some of you are being very negative having no sympathy for the deceased. Just think he may have been going through a phase. You should think of him as a down to earth human rather than a joule thief.

Instead of trying to transform your view maybe you should all switch off and put a socket in it.

On a more positive note, Iâ€™m sure he was static when he left in the Hertz.

Flyboy · 16-04-2010, 20:52

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Originally Posted by Masque

Quite right as well.

I am just amazed that anyone could have been so damn stupid to think that it was safe to cut that cable.

But as has been pointed out, several times, that it does not mean that he deserved to die and that justice has been served.

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Originally Posted by Maggy J

Gallows humour...

Sorry Maggy, but gallows humour, like most humour is supposed to be funny. But this goes beyond such things and has descended into the glorification of and delight in, someone's rather gruesome death and the loss to a family. In fact, the delight was being re-inforced with the assumption that this poor unfortunate human being was not worth symapthy, because it was being assumed he was a traveller.

16-04-2010, 21:04

Is it open day now on all deceased folk , can i mock anyone i feel like or only people that some of use find it funny to mock,

**Paul** · 16-04-2010, 21:16

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Originally Posted by bjorkiii

Is it open day now on all deceased folk , can i mock anyone i feel like or only people that some of use find it funny to mock,

No.

He was incredibly stupid, and paid for it, deserved ? probably not, but not deserving of much sympathy either.