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Old 12-04-2010, 13:42   #106
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Re: Politically Correct person makes man kill himself.

I believe it was mentioned on page one, wasn't it?

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Ooops...that was speculation by Russ; must remember to read linked article. But then, as it was the Daily Heil, one can make any assumption they wish and IT would still be more accurate than what they would ever write.
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Old 12-04-2010, 13:56   #107
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Re: Politically Correct person makes man kill himself.

Ooops indeed.

Are events reported in 'approved' publications the only ones that actually happened?
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Old 12-04-2010, 14:01   #108
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Re: Politically Correct person makes man kill himself.

I am not sure, but I tend think many times (not just twice, but perhaps a few hundred times) before reading such articles from this particular publication. I would believe it wise for everyone to do so.
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Old 12-04-2010, 14:06   #109
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Re: Politically Correct person makes man kill himself.

When a publication has the reputation of misreporting and bias then it is perhaps wise to check the story with another source.

I used to find most of the DM's output laughable but when I see some people taking some of the stories seriously on this forum
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Old 12-04-2010, 14:13   #110
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Re: Politically Correct person makes man kill himself.

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Old 12-04-2010, 14:33   #111
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Re: Politically Correct person makes man kill himself.

Could I just point out all the caveats in both articles, as this appears to be a tragic story with a lot of speculation attached....

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Mr Amor, who worked at the company’s premises in the grounds of Withington Hospital in south Manchester, was facing a disciplinary investigation after reportedly making a politically-incorrect joke about a black colleague.
He is believed to have joked that his colleague ‘better hide’ when he noticed immigration officers outside his office.
It is understood the man was not offended, but someone overheard the comment and reported it to bosses.
It would be nice to have some facts (besides the tragedy of the man's death), rather than all this speculation (imho).

And as I said before, strange that this story has turned up, when the memorial service was at the end of February.
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Old 12-04-2010, 14:54   #112
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Re: Politically Correct person makes man kill himself.

Has anyone considered that maybe the 'approved' publications don't report certain stories because they are in effect censoring them?
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Old 12-04-2010, 16:02   #113
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Re: Politically Correct person makes man kill himself.

If this turns into a political rant it will get closed. Stick to the topic, please.



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Old 12-04-2010, 18:42   #114
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Re: Politically Correct person makes man kill himself.

A lot of people's skins need to thicken in this country nowadays and while bullying is not and never has been acceptable we have to get back to a position of common sense. In this country we used to laugh and mock the old communist eastern block countries for not being able to speak as you felt who is laughing now as most of them are far more tolerant then we are now how sad the table has turned on this issue.

This culture like many that have infested themselves in recent years is nothing more then a social cancer and we desperately need someone or something to come along say enough is enough and cut it out once and for all.
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Re: Politically Correct person makes man kill himself.

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I believe it was mentioned on page one, wasn't it?

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Ooops...that was speculation by Russ; must remember to read linked article. But then, as it was the Daily Heil, one can make any assumption they wish and IT would still be more accurate than what they would ever write.
yes i made that mistake ,it was not the manager that overheard and made the complaint ,the manager was acting on someone else's complaint ...
which does tend to reinforce my argument that the manager in question should most definitely have acted with a bit more common sense.Granted he/she has to act on any complaint no matter how petty they may seem ,they would be failing in their duties if they didn't ,but a quiet word with all three individuals would have cleared it up .
I do agree with flyboy that sometimes what can appear to be innocuous remarks can be symptoms of a bigger problem and must be guarded against ,but a good manager should be able see past innocent jokes and banter and what could be a case of bullying .After all most people have enough problems worrying about paying mortgages council tax ect without having problems at work that should really have been left in the school yard
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Re: Politically Correct person makes man kill himself.

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Has anyone considered that maybe the 'approved' publications don't report certain stories because they are in effect censoring them?
Or.......

They don't print them because they (on the whole) print news, not rabble-rousing speculation?
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Re: Politically Correct person makes man kill himself.

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I've seen people taunted in the workplace because of their weight. Suppose the target of these comments laughed them off at work, but in reality was in deep depression and one day decided to end his/her life.

Who would you then say had "blood on there hands"? The manager who didn't report the abuse?

Well the "victim" of the abuse is a funny victim as he went to his mate funeral.

The person who has blood on there hands is a I said in a later post, the bust body who started the ball rolling.
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Re: Politically Correct person makes man kill himself.

Hardly. He/she probably believed they were acting appropriately and in the best interests of their colleague and employer, by bringing it to the attention of their line manager; just as I would expect any employee of mine to do. I truly believe that there is more to this than meets the eye, but it is unlikely to be ever revealed.
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Hardly. He/she probably believed they were acting appropriately and in the best interests of their colleague and employer, by bringing it to the attention of their line manager; just as I would expect any employee of mine to do. I truly believe that there is more to this than meets the eye, but it is unlikely to be ever revealed.
actually i do agree with you on this ,it is the managers responsibility to act on information recieved ,but he/she does also have a responsibilty to act fairly and sensibly to all parties
and yes i also there is much more to this
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Re: Politically Correct person makes man kill himself.

Yes, the manager does have a duty to act responsibly, but they also have a duty to any potential victim. Perhaps, after an initial investigation they decided it warranted the action they took. It is also possible that some **** of a manager, who was covering for the day, decided to play things safe and chose to act beyond his remit.
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