Another protest against plans for a new mosque

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Gary L

So why mention that you don't have any objections because you are not religious?!

Because I do not care about any religious establishments opening or closing locally to me as they have zero impact on my life.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by martyh

what your asking is for someone to put themselves in someone elses shoes ,it's very rare anyone can give a honest answer to that because they have no experience in that subject

This is quite simple really if you think slowly

If they wanted to build one I would have no objection as I am not religious in the slightest..

The religious thing has to be a relevant thing if you mention it as to how you base your answer.

so it has to be a relevant thing to ask if because of being the opposite, would your answer be different?

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Originally Posted by Moldova

Because I do not care about any religious establishments opening or closing locally to me as they have zero impact on my life.

If you had said your answer was about all religious establishments and not a mosque. then we wouldn't be all so confused

Originally Posted by Gary L

This is quite simple really if you think slowly

The religious thing has to be a relevant thing if you mention it as to how you base your answer.

so it has to be a relevant thing to ask if because of being the opposite, would your answer be different?

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If you had said your answer was about all religious establishments and not a mosque. then we wouldn't be all so confused

and as i said it has nothing to do with religion...... post 227

[speedfreak]

Originally Posted by Gary L

The religious thing has to be a relevant thing if you mention it as to how you base your answer.

so it has to be a relevant thing to ask if because of being the opposite, would your answer be different?

Its scrambled my brain trying to work out what your question is. Its you thats confusing me

I didnt vote sensibly, I was the first to put "whats a mosque" as I saw it as a pointless thread and thought it might have been started just to stir up some "emotional" responses tbh but reading this thread has got me thinking and Id change my vote to dont want one near me purely because I dont want things like this http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8251598.stm on my doorstep

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by speedfreak

I didnt vote sensibly, I was the first to put "whats a mosque" as I saw it as a pointless thread and thought it might have been started just to stir up some "emotional" responses tbh but reading this thread has got me thinking and Id change my vote to dont want one near me purely because I dont want things like this http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8251598.stm on my doorstep

I think some of these 'protestors' have genuine concerns whilst the others are just in it for the trouble of it.
that's why the thread was started. because of the now becoming quite common concerns and anger by many with new mosque builds.

as you say does it mean that everytime a new mosque is going to be built the residents will have to start boarding up their windows for the protest day?

the concerns are real. someone should take notice of them (which they have no choice but too now I think)

You can ask Russ or someone to change your vote. if that's possible

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Gary L

If you had said your answer was about all religious establishments and not a mosque. then we wouldn't be all so confused

Is that the royal 'we'?

He cannot answer about what his opinion would be if he was religious because he doesn't know what it's like to be religious.

Simple.

Originally Posted by Gary L

snippety snip snip....
If you had said your answer was about all religious establishments and not a mosque. then we wouldn't be all so confused

But he was answering the question you asked, not the one that you thought he should have thought you meant to ask when he didn't give you the answer you expected.....

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Russ

He cannot answer about what his opinion would be if he was religious because he doesn't know what it's like to be religious.

I do. anyway, we got there in the end.

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Originally Posted by foreverwar

But he was answering the question you asked, not the one that you thought he should have thought you meant to ask when he didn't give you the answer you expected.....

[frogstamper]

Originally Posted by Gary L

So why mention that you don't have any objections because you are not religious?!

For the love of Mike can you be anymore pedantic Gary, "how many posts have you made that are so off the wall they make Moldova's post appear crystal clear classical English literature".
Add to that he has at least made an effort to explain what he posted, not that it needed explaining in my opinion, whereas your standard response to a request for clarity is generally ever more self deluding claptrap.
Heres what I got last night after asking for clarity...

Originally Posted by Gary

Everybodies opinion is biased in some way to another that doesn't agree with the same. if anyone takes issue then that's because I may not agree with them. which is not always going to happen in life.

And your picking holes in others peoples posts...kettle and black spring to mind mate.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by frogstamper

For the love of Mike can you be anymore pedantic Gary,

It's for the love of God.

And your picking holes in others peoples posts...kettle and black spring to mind mate.

It's kettle and pot. isn't it?

Originally Posted by Gary L

It's for the love of God.

It's a "minced oath", Gary.

Originally Posted by frogstamper

..snippety snip snip...
And your picking holes in others peoples posts...kettle and black spring to mind mate.

Originally Posted by Gary L

It's kettle and pot. isn't it?

Oh, the irony......

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Gary L

I do. anyway, we got there in the end.

That I rather doubt as you keep seeking further clarification and asking questions that cannot be answered by anyone.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Moldova

That I rather doubt as you keep seeking further clarification and asking questions that cannot be answered by anyone.

We did and we didn't. you answered the question of would you have any objection to a mosque being built by you with "If they wanted to build one I would have no objection as I stated throughout as I am not religious in the slightest.."

and later said that it was any religious establishments you were answering to. not an actual mosque. so we got there (sort of)

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Gary L

We did and we didn't. you answered the question of would you have any objection to a mosque being built by you with "If they wanted to build one I would have no objection as I stated throughout as I am not religious in the slightest.."

and later said that it was any religious establishments you were answering to. not an actual mosque. so we got there (sort of)

We are more likely to get a Kingdom Hall built than a Mosque, but still I would not be interested as the church in whatever guise holds no interest for me.

I think that I would be more bothered if they wanted another prison built in Liverpool as we already have 2 within 2 miles of each other plus if you count Park Lane in with that 3 within 4 miles.

[Xaccers]

Recieved a letter today from the council regarding the methodist church two doors up.
They want to build a single story extension joining the back of the church to an ancilary building (looks like disused workshops/stables) and develope the ancilary building into a youth service and hospitality provider (complete with bar), currently the area is an old cobbled drive which is all overgrown showing how little the church has been used in the past 3 years.
The thing is, either where the back wall of the extension is going to be, or in the enclosed garden they're going to make behind it, are large sewer covers, a sewer which is fed from mine and next door's toilets. There's also an access cover for it at the front of the proposed extension. That's where it regularly gets blocked, requiring the water company to come out and clear it. The plans include many more toilets, which will either help keep the sewer clear with all the extra flushing, or block it quicker with the extra paper.
The church hasn't been used for over 3 years, and even then the largest number of visitors were the choir practicing in the evening once a week.
So there is a possibility of increased congestion and loss of parking, depending on what time of day the church is used. As I've said before, at least the mosque is only busy for an hour on Friday afternoons when most people are at work so it's not really a problem, but the churches in the area which do not have off road parking do cause a problem as they tend to be used when residents are home.

I've been online and checked all the plans, and will discuss the matter with my neighbours as access from the proposed enclosed garden to the street will be down the side of their house, which at them moment is only seperated from their garden by a low wall.