The 2010 General Election Thread: Week 1

[Angua]

0.051 Thrilling stuff

[Tezcatlipoca]

Originally Posted by Sirius

To be honest this sitting on the fence ability of there's is what i would have expected if they ended up in power so nothing new there. The libs Dem's sit on the fence till they see which way the wind is blowing then make a statement.

They don't seem to have the ability to make there own decisions which is another reason i cannot trust them to defend this country in time of need. In fact they remind me of the actions of Italy in WW2

I'm curious as to why you believe that the Lib Dems "sit on the fence till they see which way the wind is blowing then make a statement", "don't seem to have the ability to make there own decisions", and why they remind you "of the actions of Italy in WW2"?


For me, personally, the Lib Dems are the only one of the three main parties to consistently match the majority of my views on the things I care about or think are important.

Off the top of my head, some of the major issues I agreed with their stand (not fence sitting) on are:

The Iraq War - voted against.

Tuition Fees - voted against.

Top-Up Fees - voted against.

Foundation Hospitals - voted against.

ID Cards - voted against.

The Dark Lord's Digital Economy Bill - voted against.


They also have a habit of opposing New Labour's endless authoritarian attacks on Civil Liberties.


I know you have no intention of voting Lib Dem, & I have no wish to "convert" you into doing so, but at least read up on their policies before claiming that all they ever do is "sit on the fence" and "not make their own decisions".

Comparing Lib Dems to Mussolini's Italy is a new one. Have to give him that!

[Tezcatlipoca]

Here's another vote match quiz thing:

http://www.votematch.org.uk/


My results -


Liberal Democrats: 82%

Green Party: 62%

Labour Party: 40%

Conservative Party: 37%

[TheNorm]

Originally Posted by Cobbydaler

It doesn't matter how I vote, my voting power is 0.015...

0.123 for me - half of the UK average.

I'll still be voting, of course. I figure it is the least I can do for those who fought and died so that we live in a democracy.

[Tezcatlipoca]

Originally Posted by Cobbydaler

It doesn't matter how I vote, my voting power is 0.015

Find out what yours is here.

Anybody on the forum in one of the most or least powerful constituencies?

Mine is 0.226 in Cambridge.

0.605 in North West Leeds.

[Angua]

Originally Posted by Matt D

I'm curious as to why you believe that the Lib Dems "sit on the fence till they see which way the wind is blowing then make a statement", "don't seem to have the ability to make there own decisions", and why they remind you "of the actions of Italy in WW2"?


For me, personally, the Lib Dems are the only one of the three main parties to consistently match the majority of my views on the things I care about or think are important.

Off the top of my head, some of the major issues I agreed with their stand (not fence sitting) on are:

The Iraq War - voted against.

Tuition Fees - voted against.

Top-Up Fees - voted against.

Foundation Hospitals - voted against.

ID Cards - voted against.

The Dark Lord's Digital Economy Bill - voted against.


They also have a habit of opposing New Labour's endless authoritarian attacks on Civil Liberties.


I know you have no intention of voting Lib Dem, & I have no wish to "convert" you into doing so, but at least read up on their policies before claiming that all they ever do is "sit on the fence" and "not make their own decisions".

I think the claim of fence squatting is to avoid actually looking properly at what the Lib Dems propose. It is such a tired old claim by other party stalwarts and the lazy press that gets trotted out election after election.

[Xaccers]

0.728

Labour changed the boundaries since 2005.
If they had done it before they'd have won by 1.7% of the vote.
Hmm, I wonder if that could have possibly been one of the reasons for the boundary change...
Looking into it, yes they have taken a section of MKNW (Tory 3.3% majority) and given it to MKSW (Labour 8.1% majority) to make MKS and a smaller MKN.
Basically they've taken a load of Tory voters and moved them into a Labour area so if the vote goes the same in 2005 Labour would win both constituencies.

[Lew]

Originally Posted by martyh

my voting power is a big fat zero, apparently we don't exist in the north east as it returned a "no result" answer ,which i suppose answers a lot of questions

Did you put a space in the middle of your postcode? I didn't and got the same result. When I included a space it gave me a result.

Originally Posted by Lew

Did you put a space in the middle of your postcode? I didn't and got the same result. When I included a space it gave me a result.

cheers for that

0.118 now i feel realy empowered

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Moldova

The same can be said of the Thatcher era or the Major era and the next govenment even after 3 terms will prove to be just as incompetent as the present incumbents.

As incompetent as New Labour?? I think we'll have to agree to disagree on that one..

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Osem

As incompetent as New Labour?? I think we'll have to agree to disagree on that one..

All they did was try to be a poor imitation of the tories and failed miserably and all Dave will do is line the pockets of big business by selling off more of the country, we are nothing to the likes of him and most other politicians, we are just the idiots who give them Carte Blanche to screw us into the ground.

But Molly, the money for public services has to come from somewhere - Labour tried to ignore this fact, and it has come home to roost.

We need to live within our income, investing where appropriate (Health, Education, Police, and re-focussing Defence spend), but not just spend for the sake of spending; Labour have had 13 years to find efficiencies, isn't it strange they find them just before an election?

And I differ from you in the view of politicians - I think people like Cameron and Brown do want to do what is best for Britain and it's people; it's just their definition(s) of "what is best" may vary from ours (and each other).

I think it is a minority of "career" politicians have tainted it for the rest of those who do want to be public servants - call me Pollyanna if you wish.

[Derek]

Originally Posted by Flyboy

Can you honestly see the amount of bureaucracy falling with a Tory government?

Yes.