05-04-2010, 13:15
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Re: Labour Election Posters
what would happen if you work all hours you can and there is no not going to the pub because your earnings cant even cover your living costs without luxuries?
yes this situation does exist for some people.
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05-04-2010, 13:18
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Re: Labour Election Posters
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what would happen if you work all hours you can and there is no not going to the pub because your earnings cant even cover your living costs without luxuries?
yes this situation does exist for some people.
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Then either your living costs are too high or your wage is too low and you need a different job.
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05-04-2010, 13:25
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Re: Labour Election Posters
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Then either your living costs are too high or your wage is too low and you need a different job.
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05-04-2010, 17:35
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Re: Labour Election Posters
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Then either your living costs are too high or your wage is too low and you need a different job.
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We going in circles.
You know what I will next say? what happens if thats the only job available to you, you would then attack the person for leaving the job and going on the dole right?
In poor parts of the country people are often faced with either long hours and poor pay or the dole, there is no better job. Simple fact of life I'm afraid and is especially the case in a recession.
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05-04-2010, 18:02
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Re: Labour Election Posters
Had a 5 minute look at rooms available in sheffield, plenty for 50ppw, some all inclusive too.
It's about the same in Mingingham and several other places around the country.
So that's 200-250 a month on a roof.
40 hours a week on minimum wage (long hours on poor pay) gives £869 in your pocket each month.
So after renting a room, that's at least £600-650 a month for everything else.
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05-04-2010, 18:28
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Re: Labour Election Posters
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Originally Posted by Xaccers
Had a 5 minute look at rooms available in sheffield, plenty for 50ppw, some all inclusive too.
It's about the same in Mingingham and several other places around the country.
So that's 200-250 a month on a roof.
40 hours a week on minimum wage (long hours on poor pay) gives £869 in your pocket each month.
So after renting a room, that's at least £600-650 a month for everything else.
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Logic will not win in this debate honest
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05-04-2010, 18:37
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Re: Labour Election Posters
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Originally Posted by Chrysalis
In poor parts of the country people are often faced with either long hours and poor pay or the dole, there is no better job. Simple fact of life I'm afraid and is especially the case in a recession.
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Poor parts of the country also tend to have lower living costs. Supply and demand, if people tend to be poor prices will lower until demand is higher as supply of housing, the major expense, is fairly static. The welfare state will assist those with lower incomes also in the form of income support, housing benefit and council tax benefit if exceedingly poor.
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06-04-2010, 07:00
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Re: Labour Election Posters
Some people can do more I dont disagree but I am also realistic, there is only a limited amount of skilled jobs so some people will 'always' have to do unskilled work if they want to work.
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06-04-2010, 09:43
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Re: Labour Election Posters
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Some people can do more I dont disagree but I am also realistic, there is only a limited amount of skilled jobs so some people will 'always' have to do unskilled work if they want to work.
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No-one's stopping them from doing so. Emphasis is on skilled work because it requires more effort and more investment all around. One can hardly do a huge recruitment drive and government investment in promoting minimum wage cleaning jobs.
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