New 25p drug far deadlier than mephedrone

[Gary L]

A TOP government scientist has warned “nothing” is known about a potentially-deadly new drug set to take Britain by force when mephedrone is banned.
Toxic naphyrone, dubbed NRG-1 and Rave, is feared to be 13 times stronger than cocaine and more addictive than heroin.
Dr Les King – a Department of Health drugs adviser who sits on the Independent Scientific Committee on Drugs – urged users to “steer clear” of the substance which triggers pleasure receptors in the brain to get users high.
The powerful new narcotic costs just 25p a hit compared to £10 for a rock of crack cocaine.
But the authorities can do nothing because the substance is totally legal. And, worryingly, it will escape new legislation on mephedrone because of the difference in its chemical make up.

Dave Llewellyn is a Scots-born chemist of Welsh descent.

He made a living dealing meph over the internet from his Belgian-based Alchemy Labz. He has stopped selling it now.

But the self-confessed hedonist insisted he would never deal naphyrone – invented in the same Chinese drug factories that created meph.

He said: “If you think mephedrone is a killer this will make it look like teething powder. You will see bodies piling up in the morgues"

Is this the end of the Chavs?

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wa...1466-26170835/

[papa smurf]

the thrill seekers will lap it up even if its a killer,i cant get my head around the need to risk your life for this rubbish.

[speedfreak]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

the thrill seekers will lap it up even if its a killer,i cant get my head around the need to risk your life for this rubbish.

Most of its probably down to boredom and peer pressure IMO

[Gary L]

I've never touched drugs. from seeing what it does to others, and the addiction fear of it.

I don't feel sorry for the ones who will use it regardless, but I do feel sorry for the ones who try it for the first time and become addicted to it.

[idi banashapan]

let them get on with it - if they're stupid enough to put this crap inside themselves, then so be it. excuses of peer pressure and boredom don't wash with me I'm afraid. stupidity is the only reason people would bother doing drugs.

[papa smurf]

the problem is because its legal its also perceived as safe by some people.

[speedfreak]

I did all sorts I'm not at all proud of, looking back its my mum and dad I feel sorry for. How I've ended up with such a good job etc I'll never know, though it was probably down to my mum not giving up I dread my young 'un getting older. I wasn't a stupid lad but a lot of it is down to who you mix with. Bender unless you have been in that position yourself you'd never understand, I wouldnt either.

[idi banashapan]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

the problem is because its legal its also perceived as safe by some people.

kind of supports the stupidity theory really! to intentionally take something that you know will alter your state of mind / wellbeing is just crazy... especially when it's something like fertilizer....

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Bender

let them get on with it - if they're stupid enough to put this crap inside themselves, then so be it. excuses of peer pressure and boredom don't wash with me I'm afraid. stupidity is the only reason people would bother doing drugs.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Bender

let them get on with it - if they're stupid enough to put this crap inside themselves, then so be it. excuses of peer pressure and boredom don't wash with me I'm afraid. stupidity is the only reason people would bother doing drugs.

would you hold the same view if it was a member of your family who tried it once and died ?

[speedfreak]

Picture the scene, 15 year old girl, grade A student, at a school disco with her mates and in the toilets they are all snorting something. Her mates pressure her to have a go, she caves in and tries it. Then dies. Story comes out in the paper a new victim of x drug but you would just say she was stupid/chav etc?

You'd have to be living in a bubble if you think its all chavs and jobless scroungers/people going nowhere in life that try drugs


On topic, they can't ban everything thats harmful, something else needs to be done

[idi banashapan]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

would you hold the same view if it was a member of your family who tried it once and died ?

I would consider them a fool for doing it, yes. It doesn't mean I wouldn't be sad or didn't love them or wouldn't miss them terribly, but I would still think they were stupid for doing drugs

---------- Post added at 14:30 ---------- Previous post was at 14:25 ----------

Originally Posted by speedfreak

Picture the scene, 15 year old girl, grade A student, at a school disco with her mates and in the toilets they are all snorting something. Her mates pressure her to have a go, she caves in and tries it. Then dies. Story comes out in the paper a new victim of x drug but you would just say she was stupid/chav etc?

You'd have to be living in a bubble if you think its all chavs and jobless scroungers/people going nowhere in life that try drugs


On topic, they can't ban everything thats harmful, something else needs to be done

no one said anything about chavs... there is no stereotype for drug takers. but in your scenario, real friends would respect the initial answer of 'no' and not keep on and on. second to that, the grade A student might well be good in academia, but that has nothing to do with common sense. she would still be stupid for doing the drugs, regardless of what her 'friends' say to her...

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Bender

no one said anything about chavs...

I did
There's all sorts that take drugs, but I just don't like the chavs much so I thought of them more.

[speedfreak]

Originally Posted by Gary L

Is this the end of the Chavs?

I was refering to this.

I agree on the stupid thing but I was just getting at how some people have such a blanket view on stuff like this, I was trying to point out that yes it is stupid but I don't think that someones stupidity is what actually causes them to try these things

[idi banashapan]

sorry - I felt speedfreak's post was aim more at myself, but I hadn't mentioned them. In which case, scrub my comment on chavs.