Ban the burkha ? - Page 16

Gary L · 10-02-2010, 19:07

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Originally Posted by foreverwar

they?

Ask me a proper question. instead of a pointless one?

**Hugh** · 10-02-2010, 19:17

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Originally Posted by Gary L

Ask me a proper question. instead of a pointless one?

I was responding to the pointless statement.....

Who do you mean by they?

Gary L · 10-02-2010, 22:45

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Originally Posted by foreverwar

Who do you mean by they?

They is the ones who marry anything.

**Hugh** · 11-02-2010, 07:51

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Originally Posted by Gary L

They is the ones who marry anything.

As usual, Gary, Mr Wriggle and his close friend, Mr Talking-Total-Bolleaux, have taken up residence inside your head, and have taken control of your postings.

**Maggy** · 11-02-2010, 08:56

OK Lets play nicely. If anyone can't keep to topic then I suggest that they stop posting and avoid abusing each other..

Gary L · 31-03-2010, 12:11

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Belgium on Wednesday is set to take a decisive step on whether to ban the Islamic burqa in public, including the street, following a motion submitted by liberal lawmakers.
The parliament's home affairs committee will debate a draft law from 1345 IST which would ban the wearing of the veil in the street, public gardens, sports grounds and public or state offices.
The proposal calls for the banning of any kind of clothes or veils that do not allow the wearer to be fully identified, including the full-face niqab and burqa.

If passed, Belgium will become the first European country to ban the burqa in the street.

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/Be...rqa-ban/598075

Welshchris · 31-03-2010, 12:23

I hope it does and makes way for other countries also to Ban.

**Hugh** · 31-03-2010, 14:16

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The (Belgian) home affairs committee voted unanimously to endorse the move, which must be approved by parliament for it to become law.
Such a vote could be held within weeks, correspondents say, meaning that Belgium could become the first European country to implement a ban.......

......Several districts of Belgium have already banned the burka in public places under old local laws originally designed to stop people masking their faces completely at carnival time.

FlimsyBob · 31-03-2010, 14:54

Why anyone should not be allowed to hide their face is beyond me, my left leg is still unique to me, can i not hide my face but completely show my left leg? ... i have enough unique birth marks to be identified, if identification is the problem.

Noone has a right to see my face, it's mine, if i want to show it, i will, if not then i won't... same with my ding dong, it's mine and i'll put it on display when i choose not when someone feels they can obligate me into doing so..

Let's just assume anyone not showing their face must have something to hide, yeah great, what a wonderful and friendly society we have... assuming something is bad if it can be misused.

If i took a paper plate, cut two eyes holes in it (used it as a mask), commited a string of robberies, would you then propose that we ban paper plates? ... it did after all act as a tool to hide my identity... i mean come on people!!, anything can be used as a tool to aid in crime... heck i could use a spoon for crime if i really wanted to, or even a toilet roll.... (admittedly i would have to be very creative to use them given things in a crime, but i'm sure you get my point)...

Maggy seems to the closest to any kind of sensible rationale on this topic.

So ban the burka? No. Do i agree with that religion? No, but if they want to cover themselves up, it's fine by me, so ban ... No.

rogerdraig · 31-03-2010, 17:25

exactly and with today's make up expertise i think i would worry more about the ones unafraid to be seen

31-03-2010, 21:20

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Originally Posted by FlimsyBob

Why anyone should not be allowed to hide their face is beyond me, my left leg is still unique to me, can i not hide my face but completely show my left leg? ... i have enough unique birth marks to be identified, if identification is the problem.

Noone has a right to see my face, it's mine, if i want to show it, i will, if not then i won't... same with my ding dong, it's mine and i'll put it on display when i choose not when someone feels they can obligate me into doing so..

Let's just assume anyone not showing their face must have something to hide, yeah great, what a wonderful and friendly society we have... assuming something is bad if it can be misused.

If i took a paper plate, cut two eyes holes in it (used it as a mask), commited a string of robberies, would you then propose that we ban paper plates? ... it did after all act as a tool to hide my identity... i mean come on people!!, anything can be used as a tool to aid in crime... heck i could use a spoon for crime if i really wanted to, or even a toilet roll.... (admittedly i would have to be very creative to use them given things in a crime, but i'm sure you get my point)...

Maggy seems to the closest to any kind of sensible rationale on this topic.

So ban the burka? No. Do i agree with that religion? No, but if they want to cover themselves up, it's fine by me, so ban ... No.

I'll tell you all two very good reason's why I am opposed to the Burkha, and its from personal experience....

The first year I worked as a PMC, we had an ex-Republican Guard as our call sign's fixer. He found the body of a woman dumped near where our Principle was inspecting some work he was contracted to look after. The fixer told me that the dead woman had in all likelihood been tried, and executed for wearing jeans instead of traditional islamic clothing. The reason he was able to come to that conclusion, was the single gunshot wound in her groin. It seems this was a favourite way for the faithful to punish immoral women within their own lawless communities. Something to do with the slow agonizing death that this sort of wound gives.... I stopped counting after driving past, or standing over 43 women who had all been full-stopped in the same way.....

The second year I was working as a PMC, I happened to be within 70 meters of female suicide bomber. She not only killed herself, but if memory serves, about 12 to 15 civilians, plus another 30 odd wounded. Yes, a woman in full tent dress, turning herself and others into porno spaghetti, human rain is a rather memorable occasion.... This may also explain why I'm always edgy while sitting around Heathrow waiting for a connecting flight. Too many women in full islamic dress. Makes me want to sit with my back to the structural pillars, at least that way you have some cover....

Arthurgray50@blu · 31-03-2010, 21:41

The question is quick to answer, other countries have the guts and courage to make make such a ban.

In this country, they are quick to defend them, top avoid upsetting them and bringing problems to those nice MPs who sit in there nice plush office and don't give a damn what we the public think.

31-03-2010, 21:46

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Originally Posted by Earl of Bronze

I'll tell you all two very good reason's why I am opposed to the Burkha, and its from personal experience....

The first year I worked as a PMC, we had an ex-Republican Guard as our call sign's fixer. He found the body of a woman dumped near where our Principle was inspecting some work he was contracted to look after. The fixer told me that the dead woman had in all likelihood been tried, and executed for wearing jeans instead of traditional islamic clothing. The reason he was able to come to that conclusion, was the single gunshot wound in her groin. It seems this was a favourite way for the faithful to punish immoral women within their own lawless communities. Something to do with the slow agonizing death that this sort of wound gives.... I stopped counting after driving past, or standing over 43 women who had all been full-stopped in the same way.....

The second year I was working as a PMC, I happened to be within 70 meters of female suicide bomber. She not only killed herself, but if memory serves, about 12 to 15 civilians, plus another 30 odd wounded. Yes, a woman in full tent dress, turning herself and others into porno spaghetti, human rain is a rather memorable occasion.... This may also explain why I'm always edgy while sitting around Heathrow waiting for a connecting flight. Too many women in full islamic dress. Makes me want to sit with my back to the structural pillars, at least that way you have some cover....

good post and a very graphic discription of the reality of the situation.

Mr Angry · 01-04-2010, 00:14

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Originally Posted by zing

good post and a very graphic discription of the reality of the situation.

Quite, only the reality of the situation is that 0 suicide bombers in the UK (or indeed 9/11) wore a hijab or burqha.

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Originally Posted by Earl of Bronze

I stopped counting after driving past, or standing over 43 women who had all been full-stopped in the same way.....

The second year I was working as a PMC, I happened to be within 70 meters of female suicide bomber. She not only killed herself, but if memory serves, about 12 to 15 civilians, plus another 30 odd wounded.

Where and when did these two incidents take place?

rogerdraig · 01-04-2010, 00:15

hmm

graphic maybe and personal yes but a reason to ban no

these are hoping you will just be after those you want to ban

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/al...bomber/572043/

this is showing from their experience they will dress to blend in

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-sto...5875-22148012/

from just reading the news most seem to favor being in cars do we ban them too ?

banning just makes it something to rally around ignoring it is the better option