Christian terrorists

[Mr_love_monkey]

So, are they the People's Front of Judea - or the Judean People's Front? - I get confused

A practical example of why stereotyping, be it by ethnicity, religion, accent, or whatever, can mislead.

When I was appointed Programme Manager on a large Mobile Comms provider's Data Warehouse Programme, I telephone interviewed the KPMG consultants who would be assisting me in delivering the Programme.

One of those was a gentleman called Saul Judah; when we had our telephone conversation, I discovered he had a broad Glaswegian accent, as well as the fact he was very well-versed on Data Warehousing. When we all met up for a meal (initial team-building exercise), I also discovered he was Asian (his family were originally from Goa), and his religion was Catholic - this was due the fact his family (when it was in Goa) anglicised their name to one of their neighbours (a Mr Saul Judah, and the forename was given to the eldest son of each generation), and had taken up the religion of the European settlers of Goa, who were mainly Dutch Catholics.

So, Saul had a Jewish name, looked like one of Gary's Muslims, was Catholic, and had a Glaswegian accent (born and bred) - perhaps things aren't so simple and clear-cut as some would make out?

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Originally Posted by Mr_love_monkey

So, are they the People's Front of Judea - or the Judean People's Front? - I get confused

Splitter!!!

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

So, Saul had a Jewish name, looked like one of Gary's Muslims, was Catholic, and had a Glaswegian accent (born and bred) - perhaps things aren't so simple and clear-cut as some would make out?

But he wasn't involved in any terrorist activities?

Originally Posted by Gary L

But he wasn't involved in any terrorist activities?

Unlike the Christian terrorists who are the subject of this thead, no (not to the best of my knowledge).

Seems like the time to ask for a return to topic.

Originally Posted by Maggy J

She also wonders how a thread about CHRISTIAN terrorists keeps coming back to Muslims...

Maggy. I would hazard a guess that the tread keeps comming back to Muslim terrorists, because the vast majority of religious terrorism, particularly over the last 10 years or so, has been carried out by Muslims....

[Dai]

I wonder why the USA seems to be such a breeding ground for these extremists?

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Earl of Bronze

Maggy. I would hazard a guess that the tread keeps comming back to Muslim terrorists, because the vast majority of religious terrorism, particularly over the last 10 years or so, has been carried out by Muslims....

Do we know enough about Islam to call them muslims though?
I'm pretty sure someone who blows up doctors at an abortion clinic unrepentantly, isn't what I'd call a christian, I know of no passage in the scriptures which justify such actions.
My studies of the Koran are not as indepth, but I am sure that part of the jihad states no harm should come to women, children, elderly or trees, which would suggest that terrorists who were brought up in islam but attack women children and the elderly are not actually muslim despite their claims.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by DaiNasty

I wonder why the USA seems to be such a breeding ground for these extremists?

Because they blend in with the rest of the psychopaths.

[Russ]

This has to be a wind-up....right?

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Russ

This has to be a wind-up....right?

Probably.
The 7 July 2005 London bombings, also known as 7/7, were a series of coordinated suicide attacks on London's public transport system during the morning rush hour. The bombings were carried out by four British Muslim men,

[Raistlin]

Ok, enough now please . . . The topic is the article linked in post #1, let's see if we can stick to it ( ... and if we can do so without the petty bickering and taking pot-shots at each other ... ) shall we?

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Gary L

Probably.
The 7 July 2005 London bombings, also known as 7/7, were a series of coordinated suicide attacks on London's public transport system during the morning rush hour. The bombings were carried out by four British Muslim men,

That brings us neaty back to the point I was originally making. They're reported as being of a religion because they claim to be, is that claim valid?
Look at it another way, can an athiest be an athiest if he calls himself that but actually believes in a god?

Can we as outsiders say "hang on a minute, to be X you must at least do Y and definitely not do Z therefore you're not actually X"
It would help fight against people tarring with the same brush, wouldn't it?

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

That brings us neaty back to the point I was originally making. They're reported as being of a religion because they claim to be, is that claim valid?
Look at it another way, can an athiest be an athiest if he calls himself that but actually believes in a god?

Can we as outsiders say "hang on a minute, to be X you must at least do Y and definitely not do Z therefore you're not actually X"
It would help fight against people tarring with the same brush, wouldn't it?

These 4 worshipped in the mosque before the event. so there's X?

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Gary L

These 4 worshipped in the mosque before the event. so there's X?

They blew up children and women, there's Z.
Similarly with the "christians" in Russ' link.