Ban smoking in all private cars.

[NoKnowledge]

Originally Posted by Gary L

We joke about them fining us for breathing. but we're getting there.

us breathing deprives children. and when you deprive a child there's money to be made from on the spot fines.

No, breathing IN is free but, breathing OUT will cost as that comes under climate change (carbon dioxide)

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by superbiatch

The hard bit is staying stopped

To some, the hardest bit is trying to find the cheapest supplier

[superbiatch]

Originally Posted by Gary L

To some, the hardest bit is trying to find the cheapest supplier

I must thank them for keeping me in a job

[Pog66]

Originally Posted by danielf

(As a smoking non-driver, I think this proposal is madness. Let people make their own choices.)

As a non-smoking driver I agree....it's my choice that no one smokes in my car, if I go in a someone else's car that's their decision.

And as someone who eats, drinks & fiddles with my stereo when driving I can't see how smoking at the wheel is any more dangerous. I think more people are killed by speeding than smoking at the wheel.

[Jimmy-J]

Originally Posted by Kellargh

Thanks for comparing a lot of us to heroin addicts

They're both addictive harmful drugs, only one is legal and the other isn't.

Originally Posted by danielf

Since when is the Royal College of Physicians part of the political elite?

Thanks for the heads up on my brainfart mistake.... My bad.

[Jimmy-J]

Originally Posted by superbiatch

Packing in smoking is as hard or as easy as you want it to be. I can say that as an ex-smoker and as someone who works for a stop smoking service.

The hard bit is staying stopped

After 30+ years of smoking I finally managed to kick the habit, that was about 10 years ago. I can honestly say that it did take years for me to actually stop thinking about having one every time I seen someone light up. That feeling/craving has totally left me now. I'll never ever touch another ciggy again.

I'm sure all of us are thrilled when people give up smoking..however that's a matter of free will and free choice..This proposal has no elements of choice whatsoever.

I'm fed up with this nanny state.I keep wondering what they will choose next to stick their unwanted noses into.I'm positive alcohol is the next objective.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Russ

For passive smoking purposes I think that's daft. For safety I don't see anything wrong in banning the driver from smoking. Lighting up is as distracting as using a mobile plus you don't have a fully safe grip on the wheel while it's between your fingers.

Actually, as I understand it, if *anything* distracts the driver (be it cigarette lighting, changing tracks on the sound system or using a mobile), they can already be done for Driving without Due Care and Attention.

Not sure what the point of this law (which is ultimately unenforceable) is beyond making the government look like they are doing something.

I also find it slightly ironic that they want to ban smoking in cars "to protect the young" when the young in question are highly likely to spend half their lives stuck in traffic jams breathing in the fumes from car(s) in front.

[danielf]

Originally Posted by Stuart C

Not sure what the point of this law (which is ultimately unenforceable) is beyond making the government look like they are doing something.

I also find it slightly ironic that they want to ban smoking in cars "to protect the young" when the young in question are highly likely to spend half their lives stuck in traffic jams breathing in the fumes from car(s) in front.

It's not a law. It's a recommendation by the Royal College of Physicians, which the government may or may not act upon. I'm with you on the irony side, though it should be said that driving actually serves a purpose, whereas there's little purpose to smoking.

[pabscars]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

I'm sure all of us are thrilled when people give up smoking..however that's a matter of free will and free choice..This proposal has no elements of choice whatsoever.

I'm fed up with this nanny state.I keep wondering what they will choose next to stick their unwanted noses into.I'm positive alcohol is the next objective.

I know what you mean Maggy, they will stop us from drink driving next

DRINK......

DRIVE......

DRUNK......




Only teasing


for those who have little or no sense of humour this was a joke

[Spectato]

Another ex-smoker here, so well aware of the horrors of 'smoking and driving'.

Personally, I think the relentless persecution of motorists in this country for one reason or another is already, bloody outrageous!
Every new law and ban effects all of us, whether we offend or not.
It's no wonder everyone is blacking out their side windows, the amount of scrutiny we're under on the roads.

I can see the sense of banning mobile-phone usage (even though it hasn't stopped the most hardened offenders) but I think something like smoking can easily be covered by 'dangerous driving' or 'driving without due care and attention', if the driver isn't deemed to be in sufficient control.

As far as the health aspects are concerned.
The information is out there.
Is there a smoker in this country who isn't fully aware of the health risks of smoking, in his own car or anywhere else?
The only proviso I would make (punishable by firing squad) is that people use their ashtrays and stop flicking spent stogies out of their windows.
Those butts don't bio-degrade you know! (and neither does the cellophane packet wrapping!!)

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by danielf

It's not a law. It's a recommendation by the Royal College of Physicians, which the government may or may not act upon. I'm with you on the irony side, though it should be said that driving actually serves a purpose, whereas there's little purpose to smoking.

Sorry, my bad. However, bearing in mind the current ban on smoking in public places, a law may not be far away.

Let people live their life how THEY see fit not someone that moans about something until the reality of it hits home hands up here who wants their tax to increase further (even more then it will after the election) to pay for a ban on smoking as ten billion pounds give or take a few million isn't exactly easy to make up. In this country we are constantly having our lifestyles dictated to us by people who other then getting paid by us through the public purse have no real interest in us and enjoy having the power to impact people they don't like.

For me it's simple if it is legal then either get it made illegal and ban it completely or just leave it alone because very soon people even in the UK where we are so used to being battered by government left right and centre are going to get royally fed up and will start revolting against all these nannying stupid laws that this government mainly have bought in. I am a smoker and i consider myself to be a reasonably considerate smoker i never smoke in front of people that don't and i never have but i don't find the same level of consideration on the part of non smoker's most of the time who feel they have a right to have one of my very few damn pleasures in life taken off me because they don't like it.

Yes alcohol will be next probably followed by any food that isn't deemed good for us and then the people who were so fervent in wanting smoking banning will be looking for support in saving their preferred vice well good luck because if you stand by while mine is taken i will do the same when it is time for yours.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Each of the nanny laws passed seem innocuous or resonable in themselves, but little by little all our liberties are being frittered away as the state becomes all interfearing.

We are getting too used to being told what we can and can't do. we actually start to believe that it's all good for us and expect to be given new orders concerning everything we do in our lives.

all these new orders come with their own fixed penalty if and when we don't comply.

We are almost at the state of mind where we are expecting those people who knock on your door to tell you about Jesus to say "whilst we're here we need to come in and inspect the property for any illegal activity. you will be commiting an offence if you obstruct us whilst we are carrying out our duty"