Royal Mail Workers Pay Rises, Bonuses, Less Hours

[Ignitionnet]

Looks as though striking works!

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to...cle7054625.ece

postal workers will receive a 2 per cent pay rise next month, followed by subsequent increases in 2011 and 2012 of 1.4 per cent and 3.5 per cent, respectively. Staff will receive a lump sum payment of £400 on ratification of the agreement and another £1,000 linked to delivery of workplace changes.

Details of the deal include an immediate payment of £20.60 a week for delivery staff, equivalent to a 5.9 per cent pay increase, and £8 per week for mail centre staff, equivalent to 2.3 per cent. The working week will be cut by one hour to 39 hours. Maternity pay will increase from 18 to 26 weeks and paternity pay from one to two weeks.

The civil service strike continues also and things will probably only get worse as unions push back on public service cuts.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...militancy.html

A new analysis of official statistics shows that the average public sector worker went on strike 15 times as much as the average private sector worker - with 353,000 days lost last year. Ten years ago, only 70,000 days were lost across the public sector.

Labour policies not only got us in the same kind of financial poop as Greece he got us the same enlarged, militant, laurel cushioned public sector as well. Hail the Socialist Republic of Brownistan

[Osem]

I'm so glad - I fully expect my 'service' from RM to improve now....

[nomadking]

I'm sure that the cheque is in the post, to the Labour Party.

" Labour policies not only got us in the same kind of financial poop as Greece he got us the same enlarged, militant public sector as well. Hail the Socialist Republic "

Ofcourse, there were never any strikes when maggies gang were in power.
When a worker pays his/her dues there comes with it a right to withdraw labour, whatever the consequences may be in the end.

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004

" Labour policies not only got us in the same kind of financial poop as Greece he got us the same enlarged, militant public sector as well. Hail the Socialist Republic "

Ofcourse, there were never any strikes when maggies gang were in power.
When a worker pays his/her dues there comes with it a right to withdraw labour, whatever the consequences may be in the end.

Those strikes which were caused by the previous Labour government enlarging and empowering a militant public sector you mean?

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Those strikes which were caused by the previous Labour government enlarging and empowering a militant public sector you mean?

Sorry? elaborate please

Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004

Ofcourse, there were never any strikes when maggies gang were in power.

Of course there were, there were loads. Funnily enough the Union barons didn't like it when Thatcher went to war on their little fiefdoms, and they put up a fight. But after the miners' strike ended, there was a steady decline in days lost to industrial action. Until Labour got in of course, and began laying the foundations for the upswing we are now seeing.

When a worker pays his/her dues there comes with it a right to withdraw labour, whatever the consequences may be in the end.

A blinkered, self-serving attitude we fully expect to hear from dyed-in-the-wool trade unionists.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Those strikes which were caused by the previous Labour government enlarging and empowering a militant public sector you mean?

Yeah they'd be the ones...

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Originally Posted by Chris

Of course there were, there were loads. Funnily enough the Union barons didn't like it when Thatcher went to war on their little fiefdoms, and they put up a fight. But after the miners' strike ended, there was a steady decline in days lost to industrial action. Until Labour got in of course, and began laying the foundations for the upswing we are now seeing.

A blinkered, self-serving attitude we fully expect to hear from dyed-in-the-wool trade unionists.

Yep - to hell with the consequences, however severe. The supreme irony being that, in the long term, those who suffered most were usually the ones who went on strike.

Originally Posted by Chris

Of course there were, there were loads. Funnily enough the Union barons didn't like it when Thatcher went to war on their little fiefdoms, and they put up a fight. But after the miners' strike ended, there was a steady decline in days lost to industrial action. Until Labour got in of course, and began laying the foundations for the upswing we are now seeing.

A blinkered, self-serving attitude we fully expect to hear from dyed-in-the-wool trade unionists.

Aye, she did a lot of good that bitch, her main claim to fame was stopping the kids milk.
Conservatives have a known track record with regard relationships with unions, so it is not just simply a problem associated with one particular party.

Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004

Aye, she did a lot of good that bitch, her main claim to fame was stopping the kids milk.

Heaven forbid that people might take some personal responsibility for their children's nutrition.

Conservatives have a known track record with regard relationships with unions, so it is not just simply a problem associated with one particular party.

There are different problems, depending on your point of view. Thatcherism was a big problem for the unions. She gave them a well-deserved hammering. Meanwhile Gordon Brown is a big problem for everyone else, because he has created the conditions that have allowed more and bigger strikes than we have seen in more than a decade.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004

Aye, she did a lot of good that bitch, her main claim to fame was stopping the kids milk.

There was i thinking that her main claim to fame was the Falklands War. Must be mistaken I guess....

Anyway, with respect to who stopped school milk, Harold Wilson's Labour government were the original school milk snatchers, scrapping its provision to secondary schools in 1968:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_Milk_Act

So Thatcher really can't take all the credit...



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Originally Posted by Chris

Heaven forbid that people might take some personal responsibility for their children's nutrition.

Well if they did that, there'd be mass unemployment within the nanny state.

[Spectato]

Geez!
Try and be happy for them, with their tiny victory (in the big scheme of things).
I doubt any of them will be rushing out to their local Bugatti dealership on receiving the news.

Probably lead to lay-offs somewhere down the line anyway, to compensate for the pay rises, then some more strikes.

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Chris

Heaven forbid that people might take some personal responsibility for their children's nutrition.

Heaven forbid that people might take some personal responsibility full stop these days

[injuneer]

Good for the posties I say, it's never exactly been the most highly paid job.

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Spectato

Geez!
Try and be happy for them, with their tiny victory (in the big scheme of things).
I doubt any of them will be rushing out to their local Bugatti dealership on receiving the news.

Probably lead to lay-offs somewhere down the line anyway, to compensate for the pay rises, then some more strikes.

You'll forgive me if I don't get excited about them getting extra money, extra maternity / paternity leave, instant bonuses and working less hours while the private sector continues to make redundancies and enact pay freezes.

You seem to contradict yourself with your second paragraph. Be happy with them, thanks to them getting what they want this time we'll probably be getting some more strikes later. Yay.

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Originally Posted by injuneer

Good for the posties I say, it's never exactly been the most highly paid job.

No-one forced them to do it...

Perhaps I've a strange point of view here but it's one that if you're not happy about how much your job pays you go and find one that suits you more. If you are unable to then it would appear that this is all your skills are worth at this time, so either improve your skills or deal with it.