Virgin to launch 100Mbit product in 2010 - Page 2

Horace · 25-02-2010, 11:58

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Originally Posted by Hiroki

Great news about this but I am wondering what would you actually use this for?

I mean with that 3 strike rule probably coming into play is 100Mbit needed for browsing and stuff or am I missing something here (if so please tell me

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Because there are many households that don't just have one nerd sat downloading the whole internet because he/she can. Throw an XBOX360 into a standard setting of a couple of desktops and a laptop downloading and 100Mb would be useful without anything illegal being downloaded.
Higher speeds raise the bar for those on lower speeds too as inevitably the benefits are passed down with improved(hopefully) infrastructure and pricing, it wasn't too long ago I was paying for the same for 3Meg as I'm now paying for 20meg.

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Originally Posted by Turkey Machine

Haha, what a joke. Berkett always the PR spinner. When their network's not oversaturated to the point they can't deal with it, I'll believe the hype. When they offer a half-decent upload speed and not the minimum 4Mbit they can get away with, I might consider paying for it.

Enjoy your 2meg and a 2gig cap then LOL.

Hiroki · 25-02-2010, 12:05

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Originally Posted by Horace

Because there are many households that don't just have one nerd sat downloading the whole internet because he/she can. Throw an XBOX360 into a standard setting of a couple of desktops and a laptop downloading and 100Mb would be useful without anything illegal being downloaded.
Higher speeds raise the bar for those on lower speeds too as inevitably the benefits are passed down with improved(hopefully) infrastructure and pricing, it wasn't too long ago I was paying for the same for 3Meg as I'm now paying for 20meg.

I always forget that people (including myself) have multiple computers/consoles that use the internet

Thanks for the reply.

Nice if they did pass on the benefits to people on lower speeds

Turkey Machine · 25-02-2010, 12:07

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Originally Posted by Horace

Enjoy your 2meg and a 2gig cap then LOL.

In reality, the cap is actually 40GB, and I'm not in charge of the connection. Plus, we don't and won't get cable around here.

BenMcr · 25-02-2010, 12:12

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Originally Posted by Turkey Machine

Haha, what a joke. Berkett always the PR spinner. When their network's not oversaturated to the point they can't deal with it, I'll believe the hype. When they offer a half-decent upload speed and not the minimum 4Mbit they can get away with, I might consider paying for it.

Think OFCOM will disagree with you there http://www.ofcom.org.uk/research/tel...bandspeeds.pdf

On average, customers on Virgin Media's 'up to' 10Mbit/s cable service received speeds over twice as high as 'up to 8Mbit/s' DSL customers.

Ignitionnet · 25-02-2010, 12:17

Any chance of sticking to the topic? We know there are many oversaturated ports on Virgin's network right now, and there are also far more that aren't saturated.

100Mbit, little use to me but devil in the detail. For my ickle family here we couldn't justify 50 as we don't cane newsgroups. The stuff about it being useful for people with 2 laptops, a desktop and a games console isn't really valid. 50 is ample for each machine to watch a couple of HD streams simultaneously and leave capacity for browsing, email and gaming on top, the crunch comes if one of the stations starts doing anything upstream intensive.

Dan, I know you're reading the thread

- 100Mbit = PR, 50/5 with perhaps an extra cost 50/10 option and 100/15 with an extra option for 100/20 or 100/25 as a minimum = product

Airwaves · 25-02-2010, 12:21

I personally wish they would concentrate on expanding the network and getting more cable out there than making the speeds faster. What happened to those 50,000 more homes that were meant to be added during 2009, did it actually take place.

Maybe I'm just bitter as this latest annoucement leaves us non-cable areas feel we are sinking even further into the dark ages and the divide is getting wider.

TheDon · 25-02-2010, 12:26

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Originally Posted by Airwaves

What happened to those 50,000 more homes that were meant to be added during 2009, did it actually take place.

No, they didn't add 50,000 more homes, they did 100,000.

From the q4 release:

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we have also invested in bringing our network to more potential customers, extending it by over 100,000 homes in 2009.

Kellargh · 25-02-2010, 14:44

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Originally Posted by Airwaves

I personally wish they would concentrate on expanding the network and getting more cable out there than making the speeds faster. What happened to those 50,000 more homes that were meant to be added during 2009, did it actually take place.

Maybe I'm just bitter as this latest annoucement leaves us non-cable areas feel we are sinking even further into the dark ages and the divide is getting wider.

This.

I'm getting pretty sick and tired of hearing one company rubbing it in for all of us who cannot get it due to their lack of coverage. There's got to be some sort of unfair competition with this, when I can barely get 2mb and yet someone on the same street as me will soon be able to get 100mb.

Also, I wish this company would damn fix the current speed issues we have, instead of just trying to lure more people in, making the situation worse for all.

BenMcr · 25-02-2010, 14:46

Course TrustedReviews has just pointed out something I hadn't considered....

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One fly in the ointment: if you're using WiFi then real world wireless n speeds are already tested to the limit by 50Mbit connections (unlike DSL, cable achieves the rates it advertises) and you would simply lose any benefit of the additional 50Mbit unless you were connected by Ethernet.

Welshchris · 25-02-2010, 16:05

i think they should concentrate sorting the issues on for 50mb users before causing more problems on the network.

Horace · 25-02-2010, 16:14

So much negativity, I'm sure when the majority of people were on 56k they'd have considered 2meg to be overkill but things have to keep moving forward, even if some people move forward at a slower rate, even if they have no need for a new product now, at least the option is there for the future. The fact that some people can't have everything at the same pace as everyone else doesn't mean you stifle innovation or improvement for everyone else.

Peter_ · 25-02-2010, 16:23

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Originally Posted by Welshchris

i think they should concentrate sorting the issues on for 50mb users before causing more problems on the network.

If they do not go forward then the will be no need for new kit or fixes for issues such as yours.

Welshchris · 25-02-2010, 16:40

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Originally Posted by Moldova

If they do not go forward then the will be no need for new kit or fixes for issues such as yours.

Fixing problems before moving forward for their existing customers should be a top priority not trying petty PR stunts to try and come out on top.

Peter_ · 25-02-2010, 16:43

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Originally Posted by Welshchris

Fixing problems before moving forward for their existing customers should be a top priority not trying petty PR stunts to try and come out on top.

It is not just PR but the future and without the likes of this we would still be using dial up.

25-02-2010, 16:51

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Originally Posted by Welshchris

i think they should concentrate sorting the issues on for 50mb users before causing more problems on the network.

I agree with you to a point but we don't actually know whether the problems with 50MB that some people are having will be resolved before 100Mb is launched. I think Ignitionnet, who has inside knowledge says they are working to resolve the issues albeit more slowly than he would like.