"Tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime" - Page 20

Jimmy-J · 12-02-2010, 23:14

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Originally Posted by Flyboy

Have you told them about their lives of Reilly?

yeah, I'm always banging on about it. I keep telling them if things start to get tough for me, I'll be in there like a shot. Not a bad move, getting looked after for a couple of years. Learn a trade, get fit, fed and bed. No bills to pay, plus get a nice wad of cash to help me out once I've been released, not to mention all the free help and support I'll be offered.

TheDaddy · 12-02-2010, 23:32

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Originally Posted by Product 13

yeah, I'm always banging on about it. I keep telling them if things start to get tough for me, I'll be in there like a shot. Not a bad move, getting looked after for a couple of years. Learn a trade, get fit, fed and bed. No bills to pay, plus get a nice wad of cash to help me out once I've been released, not to mention all the free help and support I'll be offered.

I'd suggest a night course or something to learn a trade rather than prison, people in prison aren't generally know for their honesty and they might just be fibbing to you about how cushy they have it, either that or they'd better start praying they don't get moved.

**Hugh** · 12-02-2010, 23:36

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Originally Posted by Product 13

yeah, I'm always banging on about it. I keep telling them if things start to get tough for me, I'll be in there like a shot. Not a bad move, getting looked after for a couple of years. Learn a trade, get fit, fed and bed. No bills to pay, plus get a nice wad of cash to help me out once I've been released, not to mention all the free help and support I'll be offered.

I am sure you will get a lot of support - especially if you have a purty mouth......

Jimmy-J · 12-02-2010, 23:40

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Originally Posted by foreverwar

I am sure you will get a lot of support - especially if you have a purty mouth......

No, I'm one hell of an ugly bloke.

13-02-2010, 14:28

I know a number of serving prison officers who all say that life within the prison is way too lenient and that far to much accomadation is made to prisoner needs. Most local residents can also recollect a number of occasions where prisoners rioted because food wasn't upto their standard trashed the place and a nice convoy of trucks was taking brand new stuff there within a few days.

This government talked a lot about many things and havn't delivered anywhere near what they said so why we're surprised about crime is a bit of a mystery.

**Hugh** · 13-02-2010, 15:33

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Originally Posted by Product 13

No, I'm one hell of an ugly bloke.

It's OK, they won't be looking at your face - just the top of your head or your back.....

Jimmy-J · 13-02-2010, 18:05

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Originally Posted by foreverwar

It's OK, they won't be looking at your face - just the top of your head or your back.....

Bring it on!

Flyboy · 13-02-2010, 22:34

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing

I know a number of serving prison officers who all say that life within the prison is way too lenient and that far to much accomadation is made to prisoner needs. Most local residents can also recollect a number of occasions where prisoners rioted because food wasn't upto their standard trashed the place and a nice convoy of trucks was taking brand new stuff there within a few days.

This government talked a lot about many things and havn't delivered anywhere near what they said so why we're surprised about crime is a bit of a mystery.

I also know one or two prison officers who think that allowing prisoners food and water is treating them too leniently. Perhaps they are a little bit jaded.

Derek · 13-02-2010, 23:58

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Originally Posted by Flyboy

I also know one or two prison officers who think that allowing prisoners food and water is treating them too leniently. Perhaps they are a little bit jaded.

Perhaps a bit far. Anyway in a totally unscientific and unregulated test how about you guess which two prisons in Scotland have the worst problems with inmate disorder and riots.

Then guess which two prisons in Scotland are run by private companies and which two have the laxest regimes outwith open prisons.

Ten points if you answer the same to all three questions. -one million and nine hundred thousand if the answers are different.

14-02-2010, 10:36

Actually flyboy although i know you won't believe it they all would prefer good conditions for prisoners they just do not like the fact that for many of these prisoners life on the inside is significantly better then the life they bother to build for themselves on the outside. This is not about abuse of prisoners it is about punishment actually happening and very often in todays penal system that isn't the case.

Bar one of the officers they are all what i would class as liberal thinking and more leaning towards the whole prison is for rehabilitation then punishment side of things so when even they complain about how the system is too much in the favour of prisoners i know they are not being as forthcoming as most would be.

Flyboy · 14-02-2010, 13:47

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Originally Posted by Derek S

Perhaps a bit far. Anyway in a totally unscientific and unregulated test how about you guess which two prisons in Scotland have the worst problems with inmate disorder and riots.

Then guess which two prisons in Scotland are run by private companies and which two have the laxest regimes outwith open prisons.

Ten points if you answer the same to all three questions. -one million and nine hundred thousand if the answers are different.

I am sure that you could have provided us with this information.

Osem · 19-02-2010, 20:25

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/m...er/8524834.stm

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A teenager from Manchester who fatally shot his 12-year-old sister three years ago has been jailed again, after being caught with another gun in October. Kasha Peniston, 19, killed his sister Kamilah at the family home in 2007. He was detained for manslaughter but within months of his release in May 2008, he was found with a revolver.

New Labour - sooooo tough on crime....

19-02-2010, 20:29

Cameron will sort it all out

his absolutley marvelous

Osem · 19-02-2010, 20:35

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Originally Posted by bjorkiii

Cameron will sort it all out

his absolutley marvelous

Will you give him 13 years to do so?.. I mean it's taken New Labour that long to get to this point so surely you should at least give our next goverment an equivalent timescale before judging them...

Sirius · 19-02-2010, 20:35

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Originally Posted by bjorkiii

Cameron will sort it all out

his absolutley marvelous

Well someone needs to because Brown has failed miserably