Installation Engineer required

[RobboEdin]

Originally Posted by Chris

Your opinion is noted - as is the fact that it flies in the face of the OP's clearly stated intention. He can hardly be trying to get a 'subscription service free of charge' when he has stated that he is only interested in viewing those channels that are free anyway.

And no, I don't think we will be stopping the practice of telling people how to alter the cabling in their own homes any time soon. It's not illegal. If there's a contract between the householder and VM then it may breach that contract, but even that is merely a civil matter between the subscriber and VM.

IMHO The channels may be FTA and the OP has that option - of receiving them via FreeSat or FreeView but there is no FreeCable. AFAIK All Virgin Media services are ONLY available when the appropriate subscription is paid. The service you are paying for is the delivery of a TV service on a PRIVATE network.

What answer do you think I would get if I asked Virgin Media to connect me to their cable network and provide me with TV M for no ongoing monthly charge? I would, of course, be willing to pay the one-off £35 connection charge.

In which case the answer is 'It can't be done, sorry' - not to accuse the OP of theft, or attempted theft, or imply he is trying to be dishonest. It seemed like a genuine question to me, and I like to think I can tell the difference between an honest question and attempted theft. We see plenty of both on here.

As I have already said, you can physically attach a TV direct to the cable, in any area where the analogue signal is still active and the cable is still attached to a tap in the street cab, and get 'free cable' that way. And you can go down to Maplin and get the cables and connectors necessary to alter the position of the VM equipment inside your house.

VM may not like you doing any of the above, but if you were a subscriber the most they could realistically do is cut you off ... if you're not a subscriber, what then?

[RobboEdin]

Originally Posted by RobboEdin

You are not permitted to connect any equipment to the Virgin Media cable network without a valid subscription.

Originally Posted by RobboEdin

Perhaps it is time for the moderators of this forum to stop the encouragement of this practice.

IMHO the OP is knowingly trying to connect equipment to receive a subscription service free of charge.

Originally Posted by RobboEdin

IMHO The channels may be FTA and the OP has that option - of receiving them via FreeSat or FreeView but there is no FreeCable. AFAIK All Virgin Media services are ONLY available when the appropriate subscription is paid. The service you are paying for is the delivery of a TV service on a PRIVATE network.

What answer do you think I would get if I asked Virgin Media to connect me to their cable network and provide me with TV M for no ongoing monthly charge? I would, of course, be willing to pay the one-off £35 connection charge.

Originally Posted by Chris

In which case the answer is 'It can't be done, sorry' - not to accuse the OP of theft, or attempted theft, or imply he is trying to be dishonest. It seemed like a genuine question to me, and I like to think I can tell the difference between an honest question and attempted theft. We see plenty of both on here.

As I have already said, you can physically attach a TV direct to the cable, in any area where the analogue signal is still active and the cable is still attached to a tap in the street cab, and get 'free cable' that way. And you can go down to Maplin and get the cables and connectors necessary to alter the position of the VM equipment inside your house.

VM may not like you doing any of the above, but if you were a subscriber the most they could realistically do is cut you off ... if you're not a subscriber, what then?

Please re-read my posts. In which of my posts do I accuse the OP of theft?

Please re-read the thread. Are you the only poster?

[clinteastman]

Originally Posted by Chris

Please re-read the thread. Are you the only poster?

To be fair it reads as if you were directing it at RobboEdin.

[Raistlin]

Ok, enough bickering already.

If you want to help the OP then do so.

If you don't want to help the OP then move on.

[RobboEdin]

Originally Posted by Rob M

Ok, enough bickering already.

If you want to help the OP then do so.

If you don't want to help the OP then move on.

My concern is that certain members of the 'Cable Forum Team' seem to be almost condoning what the OP wants to do.

No subscription, no service. Surely this forum should be closing immediately any thread which doesn't understand that from the first reply (like mine) with that sentiment?

[sollp]

Originally Posted by Chris

Your opinion is noted - as is the fact that it flies in the face of the OP's clearly stated intention. He can hardly be trying to get a 'subscription service free of charge' when he has stated that he is only interested in viewing those channels that are free anyway.

And no, I don't think we will be stopping the practice of telling people how to alter the cabling in their own homes any time soon. It's not illegal. If there's a contract between the householder and VM then it may breach that contract, but even that is merely a civil matter between the subscriber and VM.

What you can't seem to understand is Chris, the service isn't a free for all even for the 5 channels you would get by just putting the stb on the network. These have go to be installed correctly otherwise if it turns into a free for all where people just connect them to get,"What is free anyway" the the system will be affected even more by noise and interference, unfortunately you have no idea as to the effects this has on the system. I'M NOT BOTHERED ABOUT IT BEING LEGAL OR CIVIL, plenty of people use this forum to complain about the service that they pay for then possilbly the same people want something for nothing and are totally ignorant to the issues and problems it causes by shoddy do it yourself,"i don't want to pay for the cable to be moved" or "I just want the free channels on the STB" I WANT I WANT. you want a DECENT SERVICE THAT WORKS, THEN PAY FOR IT, YOU WANT IT to work as it should, then pay for it to be done properly.

You and others seem to think well cause you get them for free without subscription it's ok just to hook up a box, no it isn't, you want any service you either pay for a subscription or go down the route of getting freeview with phone line.

The OP can be helped by phoning VM and making a choice.

Or, to put it more briefly, "no, sorry, can't do it" ... which is more polite than simply assuming the OP is up to no good or trying to pull a fast one.

[sollp]

Originally Posted by Chris

Or, to put it more briefly, "no, sorry, can't do it" ... which is more polite than simply assuming the OP is up to no good or trying to pull a fast one.

Yes, but you can only go on what is explained in the first thread.

[jamiefrost]

The OP's first comment was wanting to know if he could get freeview not 'can someone hook me with the all of the movie and sports channels.'

As mentioned a little perspective please.

JJ

[Kymmy]

As already stated no channels are free.. The lowest package they do is M which although free with a phoneline is not a freeview package. You still need a valid subscription card matched with the box.

So sorry OP but even if you did get it connected there are no channels that you would recieve.. Have you considered freeview or freesat instead?

As for static IP's you can get fixed sticky IP's via a business account, but as they don't do TV it wouldn't help you either

[Digital Fanatic]

I must say, I didn't get the impression that the OP wanted to steal cable, just wanted to know if there are any free channels if he plugged a box in...

As Kymmy says though, you'd be better going down the Freesat / Freeview route if you don't want to subscribe to any VM service. HTH

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic

I must say, I didn't get the impression that the OP wanted to steal cable, just wanted to know if there are any free channels if he plugged a box in...

As Kymmy says though, you'd be better going down the Freesat / Freeview route if you don't want to subscribe to any VM service. HTH

My thoughts as well which is why I advised he may be best going down the freeview route as well.

He may get the boxes moved and find he has paid out money just to receive 5 channels or worse none as they have removed him from the tap in the cab.

[Kymmy]

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic

I must say, I didn't get the impression that the OP wanted to steal cable, just wanted to know if there are any free channels if he plugged a box in...

Yep, I think the OP might have been getting confused with the old analogue system where once the subscription has finished the box was capable of still recieving FTA channels. Where as the digital boxes are not set up like that.